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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:55 pm
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| Of course there would be costs for using roads! There are costs for using roads today too, we just call them "taxes". Here in Norway you have to pay out of your ass to drive a car. You could pay out of your ass to the government or pay out your of ass to road inc. What would be the differ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:51 pm
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| Rights is not something granted to you by a piece of paper or a man in a fancy office, it is something granted to you from the moment you are born. Some people call these rights "god-given", I like to call them "natural rights". OK, if that is the definition of "right"... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:47 pm
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| I'm not advocating for a genocide, I'm advocating that thieves go do something else instead of steal. If that includes dying, so be it, as long as they don't take away from others what is not rightfully theirs. Does someone need a hug? It depends: Are you a cute girl? If no, I'd rather pass up on t... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:46 pm
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| Is requiring citizens to pay for roads, or national defense, stealing? What if I don't think a new street is required, or that a war is immoral and shouldn't be supported? Is that then stealing to use my money? And in all honesty, churches and other charities don't receive nearly enough donations t... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:40 pm
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| Of course there would be costs for using roads! There are costs for using roads today too, we just call them "taxes". Here in Norway you have to pay out of your ass to drive a car. You could pay out of your ass to the government or pay out your of ass to road inc. What would be the differ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:36 pm
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| People don't just decide to interfere in other people's lives for a laugh. Sometimes they do it for personal gain, true, but the sorts of regulations that internet libertarians tend to protest loudest are the mundane ones which work towards a basic common good, like stopping people adding garish ex... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:31 pm
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| The difference is that with Road Inc, you could chose for yourself what roads you want to buy/rent/own a stake of/whatever, and if you just said "I don't want to use or pay for your roads", nobody would come and jail/shoot you. It's voluntary. You also have the fact that there would most ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:27 pm
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| Furthermore, there *is* a gun to your head, literally and figuratively. If you try to defend yourself against the state coming to steal your things, you *will* be shot. Here's a fine example, Australians went full ret*d and decided to confiscate everyones guns because reasons, when the man who insp... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:25 pm
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| No, asking people to kill themselves because they cause you an inconvenience is unreasonable..... See - like I said, many libertarians seem to advocate genocide towards the lower class. People always think I'm crazy when I point that out, but it's right from the horse's mouth! I've been told to kil... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:23 pm
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| Rights is not something granted to you by a piece of paper or a man in a fancy office, it is something granted to you from the moment you are born. Some people call these rights "god-given", I like to call them "natural rights". OK, if that is the definition of "right"... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:20 pm
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The_Walrus wrote: denpajin wrote: Would stuff become cheaper? It would be run more efficiently, that's for sure. It really isn't - for example, you would lose economies of scale.
Maybe, it depends, really. It would still be better than having no options to chose between at all, though. |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:13 pm
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| Furthermore, there *is* a gun to your head, literally and figuratively. If you try to defend yourself against the state coming to steal your things, you *will* be shot. Here's a fine example, Australians went full ret*d and decided to confiscate everyones guns because reasons, when the man who insp... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 8:04 pm
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| Is requiring citizens to pay for roads, or national defense, stealing? What if I don't think a new street is required, or that a war is immoral and shouldn't be supported? Is that then stealing to use my money? And in all honesty, churches and other charities don't receive nearly enough donations t... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 7:59 pm
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| Of course there would be costs for using roads! There are costs for using roads today too, we just call them "taxes". Here in Norway you have to pay out of your ass to drive a car. You could pay out of your ass to the government or pay out your of ass to road inc. What would be the differ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 7:55 pm
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| The people who live outside of society does so risking being arrested and put in jail. No, homeless people abound. You're not "entitled" to safety, comfort, and security. Asking people to hurt themselves instead of me is perfectly reasonable. Of course....if you're a narcissist. The fact ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Are libertarians our enemies? |
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Posted: 23 May 2015, 7:51 pm
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| If you can't live without others helping you, tough s**t. You have no right to force others to pay for you. You have a right to not have your life taken away from you, but you don't have a right to make others protect your life. Taking money that is not yours away from someone against their will is... |
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