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 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Religion + War

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 9:22 pm 

Replies: 16
Views: 1,626


False religion (the big phonies) are just the ponds for war lords. Faithful Christians (only living by bible morals- Greek scriptures) will not bless the guns, or worship the flag, nor pledge to do good or bad for their country. In war time all are asked to pick up the gun and shoot your countries e...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: any freethinkers here?

Posted: 09 Aug 2010, 9:00 pm 

Replies: 80
Views: 5,738


I like to think of myself as relatively free. One often does not know to what extent he is controlled, manipulated, forced. You know your parents, wife, children, boss, and other employees. Then there is the TV media, government, religion, etc. We all think we are free, but we are all victims of our...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 10:30 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


It takes more energy (work) so as to create stored potential then just that stored energy alone. There is no perfect energy transfer - will always be waist because of work done. Where did the energy come from to store all that energy into a singularity so as to be stored potential energy ready for ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 8:35 am 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


Plants are not natural, and their systems are not natural either. (Bio-machinery - with intelligent DNA programming).
None of what grows is a natural process. And it still takes more energy in then you get out to create potential energy.

Tony

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 8:20 am 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


Having the universe as a singularity gives us two choices. (1) It was happy to be a singularity and was its natural state, and so was at equilibrium at all times. (To change would be against Lot2) :wall: (2) was not happy to be a singularity and was not its natural state, and so was not at equilibri...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 11:18 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


reverse entropy? Look at the formation of a solar system in the short run. (it's first say 1 billion years) Reverse entropy can occur without design on a local basis... local in space AND time. Gravity, the self-replicating nature of certain molecules and a few other properties of matter are all th...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 10:51 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring" (Carl Sagan) We see nothing unfiltered. The light goes into the eye to the brain by electrical signals and the interrupting starts. It is all open to interruption it seems.

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 10:39 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring" (Carl Sagan) Read this: The streetlight Effect (july/august 2010) Discover mag. Page 54-57. "Researchers tend to look for answers where the looking is good, rather than where the a...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 10:10 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


Create a physical model and then do your magic. Show us all what fools we are - demonstrate the trueness of your winsome words. Working model please. Glass of water with a mix. Paper clips in a box. Any basic model showing reverse entropy without intelligence. That’s up hill without horsepower :lol:

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 9:54 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


ruveyn: There is no positive empirical evidence indicating that DNA was the invention of some intelligent entity. Assuming Design without any evidence for a Designer is a rather futile activity. There are many empirical lines of evidence. All true to modern science, unlike yours which are strictly ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Evolution vs. Creation- serious discussion only please

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 6:53 am 

Replies: 132
Views: 10,429


Teach them what the bible really does say. Not all preaches are man of God - more like salesman skinning the sheep.

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Evolution vs. Creation- serious discussion only please

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 6:52 am 

Replies: 132
Views: 10,429


Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
(No time frame here- age not known, did not said, not even guessing. God did not say so we have no idea)

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 6:25 am 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


The answer for "A" comes before the answer for "Z". Your religious mythology always continually falsifies the complexity problem. The crime of gross over simplification. (1) DNA is evidence of super-human level of intelligence - biotechnology of making machines that think they themselves are alive. ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Emotions?

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 9:01 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 699


You as a person are constructed on information only. Your "you" is just programming or brain wiring, memory connections. Yes it is like you’re just a virtual personality. If you become brain dead - all is deleted as it were. Your "personality" leaves no "body" behind. Your "personality" is virtual, ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 8:44 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


Look at it this way... Before the so-called big bang, (1) No Time (new structure) never before existed. (2) No space (new structure) never before existed. (3) No light, no matter, no planets, no suns, etc. (4) No designer DNA super-intelligent automated programming. (New structure/ and information) ...

 Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion   Topic: Is reality an artificial Intelligent designed illusion

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 8:30 pm 

Replies: 29
Views: 2,580


So what about nature too? Is nature really natural or is it an artificial creation, an illusion of sorts. Is it someone else's bio-technology - masquerading as magical happenings of nature? An illusion of intelligent design on the highest order - artificial life to look so natural no fool would ever...
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