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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 2:20 pm
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| you do realize that that view of a liberal is only relevant to the black and white idiocy of american politics? That is the idiocy in which I live. I am taxed only by American governments and have to put up with only American welfare bums. ruveyn So socialism works elsewhere and inherent individual... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Religion |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:36 am
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| The bold part - to loose to mean anything. If something is broken, either fix it or toss it. ruveyn If something as a thing is broken, you have external verifiable observations. Society is not a thing, to treat society as a thing is the fallacy of reification. O.K.. Society is a process or conditio... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Fellow Christians: Your Views On Jeanne D'Arc? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:34 am
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| Well, since you know what I am, when it comes to religion, then what am I? I neither know nor care. ruveyn Correct answer, but from the fact that we have no evidence of God, doesn't follow that reality is psychical. I.e. just because reality is not idealism, doesn't follow that it is materialism/ph... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Religion |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:31 am
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ruveyn wrote: Mikkel wrote:
The bold part - to loose to mean anything.
If something is broken, either fix it or toss it. ruveyn
If something as a thing is broken, you have external verifiable observations. Society is not a thing, to treat society as a thing is the fallacy of reification. |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Fellow Christians: Your Views On Jeanne D'Arc? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:28 am
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| Well, since you know what I am, when it comes to religion, then what am I? I neither know nor care. ruveyn Correct answer, but from the fact that we have no evidence of God, doesn't follow that reality is psychical. I.e. just because reality is not idealism, doesn't follow that it is materialism/ph... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Religion |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:25 am
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| That is not only a problem for religion. Any human, who to the effect of objective ethics make truth claims about ethics, claims nonsense. In other words external empirically verifiable claims about ethics are nonsense. Partially correct. One can see which ethical systems lead to a fairly rapid bre... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Fellow Christians: Your Views On Jeanne D'Arc? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:22 am
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| How do you know that? anyone who hears voices from unseen sources is a liar or nuts. Res ipso loquitor. the thing speaks for itself. The exception is having an unseen radio receiver. That is a different matter. Joan of Arc lived before radio so the above does not apply. Also "prophets of the Lord" ... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:20 am
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| Well, you got a good point - that is the practical and good side of the libertarian idea. The bad is that there is something like inherent individual property rights or rights as such. As the liberals like to say: What is YOURS is OURS. ruveyn Sorry, I should have clarified - there are no rights, p... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Fellow Christians: Your Views On Jeanne D'Arc? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:14 am
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ruveyn wrote: Mikkel wrote: ruveyn wrote: Jean D'arc was a nutcase.
ruveyn Please site external empirically verifiable proof for "nutcase". she heard voices (or so she claimed) but the source of those voice were unseen and unheard by others. In short, she was either a liar or delusional.ruveyn
How do you know that? |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 11:12 am
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| ^ Every group has it's wingnuts, I don't think that's an excuse to demonize the whole lot based on a few individuals. Quite a few people on this forum like to misconstrue libertarianism without really understanding it, it gets annoying after a while. Yes, I get the idea of a minimal state, I can ev... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 9:00 am
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| ^ Every group has it's wingnuts, I don't think that's an excuse to demonize the whole lot based on a few individuals. Quite a few people on this forum like to misconstrue libertarianism without really understanding it, it gets annoying after a while. Yes, I get the idea of a minimal state, I can ev... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 5:06 am
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| I don't recall demonizing of "welfare bums" being part the libertarian platform; my experience has been more that libertarians are outraged by corporate subsidies and cronyism than personal welfare fraud. No, not per say, but some individual libertarians believe in actual evil humans, they just cal... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: Fellow Christians: Your Views On Jeanne D'Arc? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 4:58 am
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ruveyn wrote: Jean D'arc was a nutcase.
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 4:11 am
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| If nobody was ever forced to do anything they didn't want to do there would be no society to begin with. Society requires balance to stay in equilibrium. . Society requires laws, customs and protocols in order to operate. ruveyn Again, there is no society out there. It is a mental construct like "l... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 4:08 am
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| Regarding the "social contract", stop taking things so literally dude. There is no social contract in the sense of Russeau. There are laws, which are enforced. There are actual contracts which are agreed to by identifiable parties, to provide identifiable values (goods. labor, legal rights etc) for... |
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Forum: Politics, Philosophy, and Religion Topic: How common are "welfare bums"? |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 3:59 am
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| That it is morally unsound exploitation. This seems fairly apparent from context, no? In other words you don't like it. All of which has zero to do with the legality of the matter. Your opinions concerning morality and $1.65 will get you a $1.65 cup of coffee. ruveyn Legality is not true like the m... |
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