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28 Jul 2008, 6:14 pm

I just recieved a computer from the church i go to with these specs.

Athlon XP 2100 @1.7Ghz
512MB PC2100 DDR Memory
120GB Hard Drive

Had XP Home on it however i was bored so i installed Windows 2000 Professional. Installed all the Updates, Avast Antivirus, Ad-Aware and the rest along with Office 2002. The thing is so fast on 2000 i can get 10 second boot speeds and it will shut down automatically. It also doesn't have all that Bloat like Animated Puppie Dogs. Flashy Desktops and all that crap that attracts completely computer illiterate people. However with the same functionality i need that Linux and OSX can't provide.



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28 Jul 2008, 7:14 pm

XP has a lot of unnecessary services and features, the performance gets much better when you disable the extra services and effects, etc. Windows 98 still gets much better performance than Windows 2000 last time I tried it. Wondering what you need from Windows that Linux (Ubuntu?) doesn't offer? All I still use Windows for is 3D games and video playback.



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28 Jul 2008, 9:36 pm

What kind of video do you need windows for?


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29 Jul 2008, 7:10 am

When I play video in full-screen the framerate is quite slow and there are alot of black frames sometimes, when playing a DVD in full screen it is not watchable. I don't think the ATI Catalyst drivers are great on Linux, in Windows I never have these problems.. I've tried several video players too, all the same result. Using the radeonhd or the open-fglrx driver video playback is even slower.



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29 Jul 2008, 11:27 am

Yeah, in my experience, when Win2K was fully patched-up, it was probably the best version of Windows I ever used. Although, at one point, I also had a leaked internal dev version of XP, which had absolutely none of XP's extra frills and unneccessary garbage, and it ran like an absolute dream. Not quite as stable as 2K, but close.



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29 Jul 2008, 12:07 pm

outskirt wrote:
XP has a lot of unnecessary services and features, the performance gets much better when you disable the extra services and effects, etc. Windows 98 still gets much better performance than Windows 2000 last time I tried it. Wondering what you need from Windows that Linux (Ubuntu?) doesn't offer? All I still use Windows for is 3D games and video playback.



Games, WiFi, Ms Office[ Along with OpenOffice.], Nero, and by the way do they make a version of BitTorrent for Linux. I also forgot, my computers domained to a network which is run by Windows Server 2003. Along with the fact that i Program in Ms Visual Basic and VBS.



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29 Jul 2008, 2:01 pm

You might be surprised at how many applications you can easily install from Ubuntu's repositories...

WiFi: Ubuntu's networking was alot easier to use than Windows, all I had to do was click my network and type in my network key, drivers were already installed
OpenOffice: Has always been Linux compatible
Nero: Never tried Nero Linux, I was disappointed with recent versions of Nero for Windows since it seems really bloated. There's lots of free alternatives, depending what you are trying to do
torrents: Transmission works great for me, but there's lots of choices
Lots of tools to interact with Windows servers/domain, depending what you need

If you are developing for Windows, obviously you will want to run Windows, but there's always the dual-boot option, or I think you can probably develop in Wine if you wanted to
And there are some 3D games that work fine, too bad most game developers don't care for the Linux



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29 Jul 2008, 3:06 pm

outskirt wrote:
When I play video in full-screen the framerate is quite slow and there are alot of black frames sometimes, when playing a DVD in full screen it is not watchable. I don't think the ATI Catalyst drivers are great on Linux, in Windows I never have these problems.. I've tried several video players too, all the same result. Using the radeonhd or the open-fglrx driver video playback is even slower.
Sounds like the driver. I'm using an ancient laptop from 2001 (my newer one crapped out on me), and it plays DVD's just fine. And that's with all 8MB of borrowed main memory on the integrated graphics. :lol:

@gamefreak:
Probably the only things you couldn't really replace are the games and the software development. You could try coding under wine, but then you might run into bugs in wine, or *not* run into bugs that are in windows but not wine. The games depend on which ones. I've run Diablo II on wine, almost no problems (there's a thing where hitting alt and tab simultaneously drops you back into the window manager; there's a known fix, but I've just been too lazy so far). WoW runs on it from what I've heard, although I've never tried it. Id Software actually made a native linux version of Doom 3. But if you just want to play a bunch of random games without any setup hassles, wine won't help.

Samba does native windows networking, including domains, but I've never used it.


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30 Jul 2008, 3:47 pm

Ancalagon wrote:
outskirt wrote:
When I play video in full-screen the framerate is quite slow and there are alot of black frames sometimes, when playing a DVD in full screen it is not watchable. I don't think the ATI Catalyst drivers are great on Linux, in Windows I never have these problems.. I've tried several video players too, all the same result. Using the radeonhd or the open-fglrx driver video playback is even slower.
Sounds like the driver. I'm using an ancient laptop from 2001 (my newer one crapped out on me), and it plays DVD's just fine. And that's with all 8MB of borrowed main memory on the integrated graphics. :lol:

@gamefreak:
Probably the only things you couldn't really replace are the games and the software development. You could try coding under wine, but then you might run into bugs in wine, or *not* run into bugs that are in windows but not wine. The games depend on which ones. I've run Diablo II on wine, almost no problems (there's a thing where hitting alt and tab simultaneously drops you back into the window manager; there's a known fix, but I've just been too lazy so far). WoW runs on it from what I've heard, although I've never tried it. Id Software actually made a native linux version of Doom 3. But if you just want to play a bunch of random games without any setup hassles, wine won't help.

Samba does native windows networking, including domains, but I've never used it.



I run Ubuntu on a computer running off a Wired LAN Connection along with XP. However all i use it for is Web Surfing, E-Mail, OpenOffice and to play with when i'm bored.