The universe may have existed forever!

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http://www.economist.com/node/17626874

I love this stuff.

I've considered this a possibility for a while, one of the most likely ones for the cause of the big bang in my opinion. I always thought of this as having the universe be a time paradox, but it's about the same.

This site is to addictive I may have to block it as my study is over. I must work.

It's simple.

1. Origination is of the mind, mind projected origination as if all. Origination complex and originator complex which is self-percieving origination.

2. It is impossible for all to begin from nothing and the need for origination in explanation is derived of minds innate functionalism.

3. People once thought the earth was flat. This is one of those kinds of things.

4. Big bang theory is akin to one massive fart but farts happen all the time so it is cyclic but least changing like so.

BYE!

Nathan Young

One of God's Names is "Lord of All Men", and there can be no Creator without a Creation, or a Lord without subjects. The idea that the Creation is without beginning or end makes sense theologically, it's just taking some time for science to catch up

ci: one of the things I learned in college is that even if a person has the greatest theory in the world, if they can't communicate it in a way others can understand then there's no point in having thought up the theory in the first place.

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Holy poopy.

By relating religion to my thought it will certainly fail reasoning of common senses we are all stuck in despite mutual rigid delusion!

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Humor is not a bot. People on the internet being real that is a question I ask myself at times as well. I do not side with either religion or strict absolute science on this issue. The fact we perceive through our minds to figure out something that cannot be proven is an innate bias that must be thought about. The best way I can adapt the big bang theory to a more acceptable theory is a line that has points of macro perpetuations (explosions per say) that continue to go round and round.

Try to refrain from superiority based jokes toward those that think differently.

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Here's Penrose's full pdf on this issue:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1011/1011.3706.pdf

And of course 2 criticisms that question this evidence of concentric circles:

http://arxiv4.library.cornell.edu/PS_ca ... 1305v1.pdf
http://arxiv4.library.cornell.edu/PS_ca ... 1268v1.pdf

Very different circle then what I'm saying. Just an abstract notion and not an actual shape of manifestation physically.

Is the universe open or is it closed?

If something is closed then something ought to be or can be on the other side.

If something is open then the human brain might want to find where it ends.

This topic cannot be concluded logically, we are limited by minds that need conclusions.

when you get old you realize that the best way to spend your time is sitting in a field watching horses/cows/sheep wander in random confusion. no patterns, no order........just being.

wasn't this settled in battlestar galactica? this has all happened before and it will all happen again? es verdad, no? jesus, how i miss bsg. no bulls..t philosophical unknowables, just raw survival.

universe will exist if its entropy remains less.