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01 Apr 2012, 5:41 pm

This morning I had connection problems. My daughters fiance wasn't here to fix it, so I went to the library up the road to get online. I've never had problems there before, and everything worked except WP. I got some kind of message that said I wasn't allowed to access the site there.

I asked the library lady and she told me that it was on their new list of sites they have to block. She called her husband who does their IT work for them (he's got a local business and fixes all the computers in town) and asked him why, and he said that it was because WP gives out unscientific information that could cause parents to accidentally cause autism in their kid.

She hadn't ever heard of this before, blocking something because of that, and neither had her husband. He couldn't come over and fix it so I could get on right then though because he was cutting his grass. They closed at 12 today so there was no reason to wait. He won't fix it where it's not blocked for everybody though.

Has anybody else heard of some crazy crap like this? When my daughters fiance came home he fixed my connection and I Googled but couldn't find anything. Can they do this? Is there some central place in the US that decides what we can and can't see? If so, who runs it?


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01 Apr 2012, 5:55 pm

Mine has this forum blocked too. I need to try another library. I hope not all of them have this place blocked. Oh well at least I still have my aunt and uncles home I can go to for internet if my husband and I ever have to get rid of ours.



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01 Apr 2012, 5:57 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
and he said that it was because WP gives out unscientific information that could cause parents to accidentally cause autism in their kid.


The hell? There are almost no words.

Libraries shouldn't be filtering anything. Something about the whole "censorship is bad" thing. Looks like that's being proven.



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01 Apr 2012, 6:06 pm

Perhaps they are blocking any site not related to academic research, so people will not sit on there all day and hold up people really needing them.

If WP is being singled out, perhaps it's because of some of the stuff in the Adult forum.


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01 Apr 2012, 6:07 pm

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Mine has this forum blocked too. I need to try another library. I hope not all of them have this place blocked. Oh well at least I still have my aunt and uncles home I can go to for internet if my husband and I ever have to get rid of ours.


This is statewide. It's pretty wierd that they would do that. I wonder how many copies they have of "A Shot In The Dark".


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01 Apr 2012, 6:09 pm

I'm afraid it's true - several major network routing sites in the USA have received notices from the Dept. Homeland Security telling them to block WP, and as this will affect the routing from smaller places like libraries and domestic users. WP will not be available in some areas and will probably disappear from more.
The official reason given is that WP is blocked because it doesn't support the fact that autism is caused by vaccines.

I've checked this with various technical goodies I have here and it's quite easy to see how the route is being blocked off.
Unfortunately we have no control over what goes on inside their systems so there's nothing we can do.


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01 Apr 2012, 6:15 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Perhaps they are blocking any site not related to academic research, so people will not sit on there all day and hold up people really needing them.

If WP is being singled out, perhaps it's because of some of the stuff in the Adult forum.


Academic anything is probably not even legal in this backwoods town lol! Most people get on the internet there to Yahoo chat or check facebook or email. The schools have computers for the kids to use but most people do have one at home. The main thing that they use the library computers for is to print stuff out because not everybody has a printer.

As for adult stuff, the stuff people around here post on FB is way worse than that and you can find it at the library. You can't see the adult section unless you are a member older than 17, can you?


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01 Apr 2012, 6:16 pm

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I'm afraid it's true - several major network routing sites in the USA have received notices from the Dept. Homeland Security telling them to block WP, and as this will affect the routing from smaller places like libraries and domestic users. WP will not be available in some areas and will probably disappear from more.
The official reason given is that WP is blocked because it doesn't support the fact that autism is caused by vaccines.

I've checked this with various technical goodies I have here and it's quite easy to see how the route is being blocked off.
Unfortunately we have no control over what goes on inside their systems so there's nothing we can do.


Do you have an idea as to which cities are going to be affected by this?


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01 Apr 2012, 6:23 pm

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Do you have an idea as to which cities are going to be affected by this?
Sorry, no. The reason for it has only leaked out at the moment and Homeland Security won't publish a list in advance because people might find a way to head them off.
So I'd expect access to start disappearing from the major cities first, with the effect rippling out across all states and depending on the local routing, some might "black out" faster than others.


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01 Apr 2012, 6:34 pm

Cornflake wrote:
I'm afraid it's true - several major network routing sites in the USA have received notices from the Dept. Homeland Security telling them to block WP, and as this will affect the routing from smaller places like libraries and domestic users. WP will not be available in some areas and will probably disappear from more.
The official reason given is that WP is blocked because it doesn't support the fact that autism is caused by vaccines.

I've checked this with various technical goodies I have here and it's quite easy to see how the route is being blocked off.
Unfortunately we have no control over what goes on inside their systems so there's nothing we can do.

Why the Homeland Security would be preocupied that WP don't support the vaccine theory? Does that mean that the homeland security believe vaccines causing autism and considering it to be of their business? :?


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01 Apr 2012, 6:36 pm

:shrug: Who knows how these people work...
There's presumably some sort of political pressure behind it but I doubt there's much chance of getting to the bottom of it.


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01 Apr 2012, 6:55 pm

When do they expect this blackout to begin, and by when will all the major cities be blacked out?

And does this affect private homes as well?


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01 Apr 2012, 7:06 pm

That's the pits that you couldn't get on WP at your library. The staff should really do something about it. How long is it going to last for?


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01 Apr 2012, 7:13 pm

It's wierd because vaccines are mandatory by the government and you would think that they would support WP by saying that vaccines DONT give you autism. Or maybe it's something to do with how we don't fit the low functioning, can't communicate profile that Autism Speaks wants to push. I don't know.


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01 Apr 2012, 7:33 pm

Use a proxy such as unblockyoutube.com or hidemyass.com, they're more than decent for forums and other work that doesn't require a fast connection. You can also dig up a large amount of servers at proxy.org. There's little reason reasoning with people who endorse censorship, I see it as a mistake in the system that should be circumvented whenever encountered. :3 Censorship is telling a man he can’t have a steak just because a baby can’t chew it.



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01 Apr 2012, 7:37 pm

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