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24 Feb 2007, 9:20 am

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Nothing lasts forever.

But it didn't :wink: there's something here now, so it seems not even nothing can be eternal.


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24 Feb 2007, 9:48 am

DrizzleMan wrote:
MrMark wrote:
Nothing lasts forever.

But it didn't :wink: there's something here now, so it seems not even nothing can be eternal.

Yes, here, but what about there, where there's nothing?


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24 Feb 2007, 10:45 am

There is a great book that touches on the idea: The Elegant Universe. It is basically explaining General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, but it is mostly about Superstring Theory. It is very well written. But yes, I think that "before" the universe there was just potential. Perhaps that potential energy came from the collapse of a previous universe...I don't think we'll ever find that out.


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24 Feb 2007, 11:33 am

Yes, well, since life is the universe becoming conscious of itself, how would it/we know?

On the other hand, self-knowledge is the only thing that really matters.


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24 Feb 2007, 12:09 pm

dexkaden wrote:
There is a great book that touches on the idea: The Elegant Universe. It is basically explaining General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, but it is mostly about Superstring Theory. It is very well written. But yes, I think that "before" the universe there was just potential. Perhaps that potential energy came from the collapse of a previous universe...I don't think we'll ever find that out.


Yes, there WAS only potential before the universe was created. That potential was God's word. When God spoke the word, that energy was released and the universe was created.

By the way, I do not think that science and religion need to be separate. I think they support each other. Good example is the idea above.


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24 Feb 2007, 12:34 pm

Maybe we're just part of a computer program. That would explain all the 010000010111001101110000011010010110010101110011 and 010011100101010001110011. Bad programs.

Hopefully, who ever's running this program is on a Mac :lol: (I don't want gravity to turn off one day!)



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24 Feb 2007, 1:41 pm

St33med wrote:
Maybe we're just part of a computer program. That would explain all the 10101011001110100011000000111111101010100001

Hopefully, who ever's running this program is on a Mac :lol: (I don't want gravity to turn off one day!)



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24 Feb 2007, 3:23 pm

jnet wrote:
dexkaden wrote:
There is a great book that touches on the idea: The Elegant Universe. It is basically explaining General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, but it is mostly about Superstring Theory. It is very well written. But yes, I think that "before" the universe there was just potential. Perhaps that potential energy came from the collapse of a previous universe...I don't think we'll ever find that out.


Yes, there WAS only potential before the universe was created. That potential was God's word. When God spoke the word, that energy was released and the universe was created.

By the way, I do not think that science and religion need to be separate. I think they support each other. Good example is the idea above.


I have no idea what you are talking about. :?

a) Who is this 'God'?
b) What was his 'word'?
c) How your above hypothesis correlate with the observable evidence of the cosmos?



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24 Feb 2007, 10:47 pm

St33med wrote:
Maybe we're just part of a computer program. That would explain all the 10101011001110100011000000111111101010100001

Hopefully, who ever's running this program is on a Mac :lol: (I don't want gravity to turn off one day!)


I found a binary translator and hosted it onto my website so you can make and decode binary

the URL is here: http://www.freewebs.com/ki3o/binary.html

as a little test, try translating this. (copy/paste)

01110100011010000110100101110011001000000110100101110
01100100000011000100110100101101110011000010111001001
11100100100000011011000110111101101100



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25 Feb 2007, 12:21 am

tealclock wrote:
St33med wrote:
Maybe we're just part of a computer program. That would explain all the 10101011001110100011000000111111101010100001

Hopefully, who ever's running this program is on a Mac :lol: (I don't want gravity to turn off one day!)


I found a binary translator and hosted it onto my website so you can make and decode binary

the URL is here: http://www.freewebs.com/ki3o/binary.html

as a little test, try translating this. (copy/paste)

01110100011010000110100101110011001000000110100101110
01100100000011000100110100101101110011000010111001001
11100100100000011011000110111101101100


I rather doubt that the universe is written in ASCII. :D


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25 Feb 2007, 3:09 am

Before the universe????

I think I'd liken the existing universe to be located in god's navel....which would make us navel lint.

As somehow navel lint does appear from nothing...therefore, before the universe there was a clean naval. :wink:



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25 Feb 2007, 9:02 am

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Before the universe????

I think I'd liken the existing universe to be located in god's navel....which would make us navel lint.

As somehow navel lint does appear from nothing...therefore, before the universe there was a clean naval. :wink:

No, no... before the universe there was just navy blue.


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25 Feb 2007, 9:04 am

It was probably just some four-dimensional lob of mass inside another, more complicated five-dimensional universe, where entire four-dimensional universes form and die like stars...or something. I don't know. I'm bad with science.



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25 Feb 2007, 5:55 pm

Jameson wrote:
tealclock wrote:
St33med wrote:
Maybe we're just part of a computer program. That would explain all the 10101011001110100011000000111111101010100001

Hopefully, who ever's running this program is on a Mac :lol: (I don't want gravity to turn off one day!)


I found a binary translator and hosted it onto my website so you can make and decode binary

the URL is here: http://www.freewebs.com/ki3o/binary.html

as a little test, try translating this. (copy/paste)

01110100011010000110100101110011001000000110100101110
01100100000011000100110100101101110011000010111001001
11100100100000011011000110111101101100



I rather doubt that the universe is written in ASCII. :D


its not ASCII. it only convorts ASCII and decodes binary



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25 Feb 2007, 7:31 pm

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Reality is not maths however. There WAS a before and my opinion is that the universe goes through cycles of 'banging' and 'collapsing'.

That's my thinking as well.



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25 Feb 2007, 7:47 pm

There was water and a bunch of skinny dipping women and cats that could walk on water.