Computer virus disguised as anti trojan program

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22 Jan 2010, 8:44 pm

When I broused the internet, the brouser popped up "You're computer has trojans" and such. It asked to download a file, and run it. The source of page could not be verified. Now my computer is running slower STILL. as if it wasn't slow enough. I didn't run the thing. My sister, an experianced computer person, said that when it popps up in the brouser, being a pain in your butt, halting your brouse, and literaly in your face, use control, alt, delete to exit the web brouser.

Do not download or run the files from this nuesance. It has this "list" of would be trojans, that actualy aren't on your computer. The idea is to scare you into thinking you have them, so you can download their assault, and get a real one anyway.

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:x I doubt I am the only one who wants to murder the people responcible. I wander how many people are going to fall for it while looking for work!?

:evil: This is the SECOND TIME today I have to run my McCafee program for HOURS ON END! :evil: :ncool:



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22 Jan 2010, 8:58 pm

Thank you for the heads up.


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23 Jan 2010, 9:47 pm

McCafee? :coffee: Sorry, can't resist. :lol:

You mean you've installed McAfee but it still let the trojan through in the first place? And then you manual scan your harddisk afterwards? I've to wonder if it can actually detect the thing in the manual scan, why isn't it catch in the real-time scan? Maybe it's time to consider another virus scanner.



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23 Jan 2010, 10:33 pm

Change the default theme of your computer. When you get a popup in a window that doesnt match your computer, you know that it is not a system message and you may safely ignore it.

Custom themes are great virus protection!


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23 Jan 2010, 10:38 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
When you get a popup in a window that doesnt match your computer, you know that it is not a system message and you may safely ignore it.

Custom themes are great virus protection!


Nice tip! thank you.

I got some kind of scan pop-up here at WP yesterday and had to close a series of pop-ups to finally get away from it, but I did that immediately because I knew it had not come from any program on my machine.


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23 Jan 2010, 11:30 pm

These have been around for a while. In many cases you can close the dialogue box with ease. Using [CTRL] + [ALT] + [DEL] is too extreme and you are opening "Task Manager" It's easy to open the same thing by right clicking the taskbar and selecting Task Manager this way.



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24 Jan 2010, 12:06 am

leejosepho wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
When you get a popup in a window that doesnt match your computer, you know that it is not a system message and you may safely ignore it.

Custom themes are great virus protection!


Nice tip! thank you.

I got some kind of scan pop-up here at WP yesterday and had to close a series of pop-ups to finally get away from it, but I did that immediately because I knew it had not come from any program on my machine.


You are welcome. Spread the word.

You will have a setting somewhere in your browser which disallows (most) unsolicited popups. It used to be that when I got those I repeatedly pressed the esc key to halt their loading. Its a lot faster than the mouse.

The ones I mentioned before are usually embedded in another window and made to look like they are a separate window, emulating the window border features. But pressing anywhere - even the x to close - will activate the malicious code.


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24 Jan 2010, 7:11 am

Hmm, i myself have never downloaded one of these, however i have had to get rid of it on a few friends computers (baddest case was a program called total secure 2009) and had to use malwarebytes to get rid of it while in safe mode.



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24 Jan 2010, 8:56 am

Fuzzy wrote:
The ones I mentioned before are usually embedded in another window and made to look like they are a separate window, emulating the window border features. But pressing anywhere - even the x to close - will activate the malicious code.


Yes, that is what happened here a couple of days ago, and it had a fast-running counter and a gradient bar running to distract and excite me ... but I stayed cool and got rid of it!


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24 Jan 2010, 9:14 am

If only the computer designers listened to Jacquard instead of von Neuman, none of this would be happening.

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24 Jan 2010, 9:26 am

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If only the computer designers listened to Jacquard instead of von Neuman, none of this would be happening.

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Controlled by punchcards with punched holes?

I remember once trying to get a card-punch job ...


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24 Jan 2010, 9:51 am

leejosepho wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
If only the computer designers listened to Jacquard instead of von Neuman, none of this would be happening.

ruveyn


Controlled by punchcards with punched holes?

I remember once trying to get a card-punch job ...

... ah.... that advanced technology of punched cards... paper tape, prepared on a Teletype... those were the days ... and the clever black sticky pre-holed patches, for repairing the tape when (not if) it ripped.
ImageASR-33 Teletype


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24 Jan 2010, 12:42 pm

lau wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
If only the computer designers listened to Jacquard instead of von Neuman, none of this would be happening.

ruveyn


Controlled by punchcards with punched holes?

I remember once trying to get a card-punch job ...

... ah.... that advanced technology of punched cards... paper tape, prepared on a Teletype... those were the days ... and the clever black sticky pre-holed patches, for repairing the tape when (not if) it ripped.
ImageASR-33 Teletype


Them were the days......Simply stapling a punch card could cause all sorts of havoc....


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24 Jan 2010, 2:05 pm

lau wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
If only the computer designers listened to Jacquard instead of von Neuman, none of this would be happening.

ruveyn


Controlled by punchcards with punched holes?

I remember once trying to get a card-punch job ...

... ah.... that advanced technology of punched cards... paper tape, prepared on a Teletype... those were the days ... and the clever black sticky pre-holed patches, for repairing the tape when (not if) it ripped.
ImageASR-33 Teletype


I've still got a backups of some Fortran programs I wrote thirty years ago for a Cray computer on paper tape. I wonder if I can get a USB paper tape reader? :wink:


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24 Jan 2010, 4:20 pm

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I've still got a backups of some Fortran programs I wrote thirty years ago for a Cray computer on paper tape. I wonder if I can get a USB paper tape reader? :wink:


Expect the USB Tape Reel drive, and Kernel level IEEE1394 support for MULTICS first.


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24 Jan 2010, 5:14 pm

LiendaBalla wrote:
When I broused the internet, the brouser popped up "You're computer has trojans" and such. It asked to download a file, and run it. The source of page could not be verified. Now my computer is running slower STILL. as if it wasn't slow enough. I didn't run the thing. My sister, an experianced computer person, said that when it popps up in the brouser, being a pain in your butt, halting your brouse, and literaly in your face, use control, alt, delete to exit the web brouser.

Do not download or run the files from this nuesance. It has this "list" of would be trojans, that actualy aren't on your computer. The idea is to scare you into thinking you have them, so you can download their assault, and get a real one anyway.

... .
:x I doubt I am the only one who wants to murder the people responcible. I wander how many people are going to fall for it while looking for work!?

:evil: This is the SECOND TIME today I have to run my MaCafee program for HOURS ON END! :evil: :ncool:


i have this feeling that you are running IE???

the messages you are getting are problaby most liekly ad or spyware,keep mcaffee up to date and do a scan, spybot search and destroy and adaware-se personal will help kill these bugs.

these messages also are a way of "scareware" to get the gullible or the computer beginners/novices to install software (as in to make them think the computer will tell them they have a virus. IE allows these messages in and to show up because of the code used in making an "error message" the advertisers and spyware can seep in past the firewall as some innoccent packet of data



sorry to say, but IE has more holes then a pasta strainer in my opinion, I would go with firefox and install adblock plus and a few other security plug-ins.

my dad uses IE8 and one day when i wasn't looking at the computer screen he clicked on one of these things, firewall (radialpoint internet security suite) caught and blocked the bug and clicked again then came asking whats wrong?? told him he clicked on a message saying there was a virus. that was first and last time he clicked, he never heard the end of it till the next day!

also depends on the website you visited when it started, some sites are *not legit* and are redirects or what i call "filler ads" be very careful and PAY ATTENTION to the URL of the website you visit.

what also makes people think its real, the window that shows your drives, some people don't realize that your drives WILL NEVER show up in WINDOWS INTERNET EXPLORER. they think its real because of the left/right navigation buttons and theres a search bar at top, people don't realize that your drives will NEVER be on an IP address or URL (a real one will say COMPUTER or just WINDOWS EXPLORER (not INTERNET) on the top bar and next to the < and > arrows

be very careful and be safe, hope this helps


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