Need Help With My PC; It May Never Boot Again! Help!

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MrNiceGuy
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11 Nov 2007, 10:32 pm

Before I blow some cash on a new build-it-yourself PC from Newegg.com, please help me with my current system! :)

My current system is a build-it-yourself Desktop PC given to me for free by a friend because I couldn't afford to buy my own at the time. How nice was that?! Very nice! :D

The hardware in it is at least 3 years old and I haven't had it for even a year. Here is what it is doing. Let's see if any of you fellow Aspies are smart enough to figure this one out!:

Okay, I turn on the computer. The light on the DVD Burner flashes and the red light indicating that the hard disk is spinning lights up bright red. The green power light comes on. And then, the light on the DVD burner flashes for a few seconds and then stops for a few seconds. The hard drive light remains bright red. It does this over and over again repeatedly and the computer will not start the boot sequence. The light on the monitor stays orange, and there is no picture on the screen. The computer simply will not boot, which if I can't boot it, then it is utterly useless.

Is my PC shot all to hell and I need to buy a new one or is it fixable? If so, how do I fix it?

I am going to buy a new PC by Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving) anyway, but maybe I can temporarily fix the one I have now until then, so I can wait for the great sales! Please help me save some of my moolah (money)! !!

Here is a link to the wishlist PC on Newegg that I plan to buy and build myself. Note that it is a very basic sub-$1,000 PC. I intend for it to stay that way. Please don't encourage me to spend more of my moolah on a computer because I don't have the money right now!! ! I can always spend some more money later on upgrades and the like; I am 99% positive that the current configuration is adequate to fit my needs, so let's keep it like el cheapo, okee day?! Thank you for understanding. :)



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11 Nov 2007, 10:43 pm

Could be the power supply, the memory, or the motherboard. Possibly the videocard.



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11 Nov 2007, 10:45 pm

ahayes wrote:
Could be the power supply, the memory, or the motherboard. Possibly the videocard.


Okay, how do I find out which component is causing the problem? And then, how do I fix it?



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11 Nov 2007, 10:48 pm

Look up the motherboard manufacturer, there should be some info about what the different color lights/patterns/beeps/whatever mean.



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11 Nov 2007, 10:52 pm

MrNiceGuy wrote:
ahayes wrote:
Could be the power supply, the memory, or the motherboard. Possibly the videocard.


Okay, how do I find out which component is causing the problem? And then, how do I fix it?


Test every component in a known working system. If you have an o-scope you might be able to tell if it's the power supply.

I suggest replacing the cheapest parts first, then the next most expensive.



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11 Nov 2007, 10:53 pm

yesplease wrote:
Look up the motherboard manufacturer, there should be some info about what the different color lights/patterns/beeps/whatever mean.


I don't think I remember the name of the motherboard manufacturer. Should I look inside the computer and see if it's labeled on the motherboard?



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11 Nov 2007, 10:55 pm

ahayes wrote:
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Could be the power supply, the memory, or the motherboard. Possibly the videocard.


Okay, how do I find out which component is causing the problem? And then, how do I fix it?


Test every component in a known working system. If you have an o-scope you might be able to tell if it's the power supply.

I suggest replacing the cheapest parts first, then the next most expensive.


I do not have a known working system to test it with. I also do not have an o-scope. :(



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11 Nov 2007, 11:05 pm

then replace the cheapest parts first



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11 Nov 2007, 11:12 pm

ahayes wrote:
then replace the cheapest parts first


Hmmm. I wonder why I should start replacing parts when I am just going to buy a new computer in a couple of weeks (Black Friday, remember) anyway. Is it really worth it? Should I just go ahead and buy a new PC from Newegg now? :wink:



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12 Nov 2007, 4:03 am

Disconnect things one by one, the floppy drive, cdrom drive, hard drive, sound card or any other adapter cards. It might be the videocard also if you have one, so its worth testing a different one if you have one. try to get it to boot with as little connected as possable.


so that you are left with just the power supply, motherboard, cpu and memory connected. test one stick of memory at a time. If it still does not work then its one of these major components and its worth getting a new pc.
You dont need the hard drive connected to get a display on the screen btw



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12 Nov 2007, 5:04 am

Sparkman's got it: try booting as simply as possible-- without DVD, extra drives or any peripherals hooked up.

Also: you didn't mention whether you were getting POST (Power On Self Test) beeps or not. Not beeping, or more than one beep can be a valuable diagnostic tool. If you are getting just one POST beep, try clicking away repeatedly on the F8 key. This will get you into "safe mode", which will prevent loading sometimes-faulty drivers. Once finished booting in safe mode, you can often reboot right into normal mode.



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12 Nov 2007, 6:09 am

UncleBeer wrote:
Also: you didn't mention whether you were getting POST (Power On Self Test) beeps or not. Not beeping, or more than one beep can be a valuable diagnostic tool. If you are getting just one POST beep, try clicking away repeatedly on the F8 key. This will get you into "safe mode", which will prevent loading sometimes-faulty drivers. Once finished booting in safe mode, you can often reboot right into normal mode.


Nope, there are no beeps at all. None! Zero! Zilch! :P



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12 Nov 2007, 7:36 am

MrNiceGuy wrote:
UncleBeer wrote:
Also: you didn't mention whether you were getting POST (Power On Self Test) beeps or not. Not beeping, or more than one beep can be a valuable diagnostic tool. If you are getting just one POST beep, try clicking away repeatedly on the F8 key. This will get you into "safe mode", which will prevent loading sometimes-faulty drivers. Once finished booting in safe mode, you can often reboot right into normal mode.

Nope, there are no beeps at all. None! Zero! Zilch! :P

Once I had a system that wouldn't boot, and there was no POST beep. Turned out the video card had gone bad.

Here's a page that describes what the POST beeps mean (helps to know what manufacturer made your motherboard): http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

And here's a page that gives step-by-step advice for non-booting 'puters: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000607.htm



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13 Nov 2007, 1:41 am

POST test could be turned off. you can do that with some computers. As said, press the "f8" key repeatedly. you might get SOMEwhere.

One simple thing it could be is a bad boot sector, if its getting that far. Thats a pretty easy fix, but we need to know if the 'f8' works or not.



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13 Nov 2007, 8:14 am

Too late! I already ordered me a new puter! I really wanted a new puter anyway. The one I have now sucks: 1.1Ghz AMD processor, 512MB RAM, 2 80GB PATA Hard Drives.

Once again, here is a link on Newegg to the new system I ordered. Awesome I say, at least compared to the system I have now. :wink:



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13 Nov 2007, 9:23 am

MrNiceGuy wrote:
Too late! I already ordered me a new puter!

Congrats! I just like fixing stuff though... :D



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