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27 Jan 2013, 6:29 pm

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Even if Guth's expansionist version of the big bang is correct, it still does not relegate every potential quantum field and entangled state in the universe to nonexistence.

By the time energy cooled enough to make particles they were far enough apart that few if any interacted and entwined. The the few particles in the neighborhood got together with gravitation.

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In quoting theory as fact you hide the actual uncertainty in this subject.

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27 Jan 2013, 6:29 pm

Yes, UFOs are real, but not in the way you're thinking of them.

A UFO is any unidentified flying object that you see in the sky.

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27 Jan 2013, 6:35 pm

UFO has been the colloquial expression in our culture for piloted craft of extraterrestrial origin. This is the frame in which it is meant.
No lexical warfare please.

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27 Jan 2013, 6:53 pm

Well, in that case, no solid evidence for UFOs yet.

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27 Jan 2013, 8:29 pm

ripped wrote:

UFO has been the colloquial expression in our culture for piloted craft of extraterrestrial origin. This is the frame in which it is meant.
No lexical warfare please.

Its not lexical warfare.
You sound illiterate when you ask "Are Unidentified Flying Objects real?"

Its a tautalogy- of course folks see stuff in the sky that they can't identify from time to time.

What you mean is "are alien spacecraft real?"-something like that.

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27 Jan 2013, 10:26 pm

No solid evidence for extra-terrestrial space craft.

No solid evidence for Ripped's personal definition of UFOs, either.

I suppose if you can't score a goal, then it's time to shift the goalposts, right?

:roll:

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27 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

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Well, in that case, no solid evidence for UFOs yet.

There are plenty of objects not identifiable by observers.

There is no solid evidence that any of them are of extraterrestrial origin.

Given the distance between stars it is very unlikely our planet has been visited by extraterrestrials.

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28 Jan 2013, 10:36 am

eric76 wrote:

I understand now.

1+1=2 only because we don't have the advanced alien technology that makes 1+1=3.

Right?

(I'm a smart ass) 1.4 rounded is 1/ 1+1=3(1.4+1.4=2.8rounded up is 3)

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28 Jan 2013, 10:43 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSJElZwEI8o[/youtube]
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28 Jan 2013, 10:44 am

^^^Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson on UFOs ^^^

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28 Jan 2013, 12:02 pm

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^^^Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson on UFOs ^^^

That is a very amusing (an informative) t.v. blurb. Tyson is very articulate.

If you can get his testimony before the congressional committee on funding NASA you should listen to it.

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28 Jan 2013, 1:13 pm

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Tyson is very articulate.

He is also more of an expert on the topic than anyone posting in this thread - even those of us who agree with him.

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28 Jan 2013, 1:59 pm

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Two samples I dug up.

Where did you dig up these samples?

The text says "boarder between Arizona & Utah, approximately 1970" in Danish, and the UFO's are very simular to UFO's from "I want to believe"-posters.

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28 Jan 2013, 3:11 pm

They're stock photos of fake UFOs that have been circulating among conspiracy theorists since the 1940s.

As the Roswell controversy hit the news, kid pranksters everywhere got hungry for a piece of the action. Armed with film cameras, they hurled anything disk-like, from hubcaps to pie plates to saucers, into the sky, faking photos by the dozens. Through a camera lens, an old button on the ground can look like a crashed UFO, and a pie pan with golf balls glued to it can look like a "flying saucer".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Tu-28hyow&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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28 Jan 2013, 6:35 pm

Fnord wrote:

They're stock photos of fake UFOs that have been circulating among conspiracy theorists since the 1940s.

You pronounce a lie as a fact.

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As the Roswell controversy hit the news, kid pranksters everywhere got hungry for a piece of the action. Armed with film cameras, they hurled anything disk-like, from hubcaps to pie plates to saucers, into the sky, faking photos by the dozens. Through a camera lens, an old button on the ground can look like a crashed UFO, and a pie pan with golf balls glued to it can look like a "flying saucer".

That in no way reflects upon the authenticity of these photos.

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28 Jan 2013, 6:43 pm

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Well, in that case, no solid evidence for UFOs yet.

There is if you look for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sliZd5arkII

http://unbelievable-facts.tumblr.com/po ... udio-simul

Referred to as the 'Southern Television broadcast interruption', the last link is a message that was broadcast over the top of five commercial strength TV transmitters' audio signals simultaneously to millions of witnesses in England in 1977.
Due to the impossibility of covering it up, it is derided as a 'hoax'.
Its protagonists have never been found.

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