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24 Nov 2009, 8:21 am

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look out Microsoft. You are gonna be hurting soon if you are not already.

Never!
You'll have to remove Windows from my cold dead hands :evil:


Did you get your hands glued to the glass when you were out peeping in womens bedrooms...again?


That's pretty funny :lol: :wink:



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24 Nov 2009, 9:14 am

I currently use the Chrome browser on my netbook because it loads faster then IE or Firefox.

It's not yet the time for a cloud based OS.. at least in the US. WiFi is spotty here because of anticompetitive practices. Yet the largest hotspot in the world is in Oregon.. some farmer set up an 800 sq mile hotspot to help him with cattle & crops.

Very few of our cities have complete WiFi coverage, just a coffee shop or library here or there. If you want to connect you have to pay some phone company for G3 or G4. It ticks me off when my son's DS has better connectivity then most the WiFi products available.

Plus there is question of why use Googles OS... how will it be better then using a browser with a different OS? If I am unable to connect, it still would be nice to be able to use my machine.


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24 Nov 2009, 9:54 am

It's the way the OS deals with foreign files. Some are run immediately, whereas the format of the file can not be read by another and therefore an attack diverted and stopped.

I checked my area for mobile internet. The area I am in is supposed to be upgraded tomorrow (25 Nov 2009), the border is exactly where I live... Let's hope I get faster speeds. I've already broken my modem's original limit and gone beyond (luckily I got a firmware update) that. Now if I can get to 80% of it's capacity, I will be happy. I don't think my modem can go faster that 7.2Mbps, but I have peaked at 3.8Mbps on average it's 1.8Mbps to 2.0Mbps.

Could you imagine a Cloud OS on those speeds? What sort of information would be on the "cloud"?



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24 Nov 2009, 6:51 pm

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Very few of our cities have complete WiFi coverage, just a coffee shop or library here or there. If you want to connect you have to pay some phone company for G3 or G4. It ticks me off when my son's DS has better connectivity then most the WiFi products available.


It always shocks me when i hear about people in the US without internet, or just dialup.

For example my friend lives in Fort Lauderdale, and when she moved home from Australia, she wasnt sure she'd be able to get internet in her neighbourhood. Luckily she managed. I think the issue was that there was no cable tv services to her area.

You guys are supposedly the technology consumers of the world.

Yet in Canada, 90% of us have access to high speed internet, and those that do not have the option of getting it as a cell phone service.

And yet, from my visits, its not quite surprising. I recall driving through huge towns that were solely comprised of houses, a few churches, a police station, fire station(s)hardware store and a family grocery. A town in Canada with 50k people will have malls, restaurants(50+), several hotels(we have more than 10), big box stores(we have in excess of 15), as well as smaller locally owned outlets. We also have not one, but two airports, one of which is capable of landing 747s(though they use as a smaller regional carrier).

The town I used to live in, in foot hills of the rockies was only 10k people, and it has several box stores, THREE air strips(though they are smaller, no regular commercial flights), and half a dozen multilevel hotels and motels.

Needless to say, internet coverage is pervasive even miles out into the country side. You have to get about 10+ miles outside of town before their is no cable internet or telephone ISP(and probably not both). The reason being that acreage neighbourhoods are planned development and they push those services into the area.


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24 Nov 2009, 7:44 pm

the GUI looks good and the speed thing sounds promising i don't use solid state drives though so i wont be using this.



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24 Nov 2009, 11:56 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
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look out Microsoft. You are gonna be hurting soon if you are not already.

Never!
You'll have to remove Windows from my cold dead hands :evil:


Did you get your hands glued to the glass when you were out peeping in womens bedrooms...again?
First of all, they were over 18, I think...


BTW I heard you made a sex tape with a goat and
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25 Nov 2009, 12:10 am

My internet connexion allow me 30Gigabythes by months, download and upload including... If I goe beyond I must pay fee. With ChromeOS I will have to download each time I listen to music, watching a video or play a video game. I will then go beyond my internet connection really fast... And also, will the data be secure. Not everything I own on my computer is there legally (pirated stuffs...), and there is also things I want to keep to myself...


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25 Nov 2009, 9:25 am

Fuzzy wrote:
It always shocks me when i hear about people in the US without internet, or just dialup.

For example my friend lives in Fort Lauderdale, and when she moved home from Australia, she wasnt sure she'd be able to get internet in her neighbourhood. Luckily she managed. I think the issue was that there was no cable tv services to her area.

You guys are supposedly the technology consumers of the world.


Odd for Fort Lauderdale to have problems with Internet.

I think much of it is an infrastructure issue. I have dialup out in the boonies. Still not broadband. Simply not enough consumers to make it viable to send it out that far. Wireless doesn't work well with mountains, so that has limits as well.

Many other nations subsidize tech implementation, so that may be part of it. I remember an article about how many cell phones were in some backwater European nations, but that isn't surprising. Putting up new cell towers was a heck of a lot cheaper than running hundreds of thousands of miles of new telecommunication wires to every home.



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25 Nov 2009, 10:02 am

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Very few of our cities have complete WiFi coverage, just a coffee shop or library here or there. If you want to connect you have to pay some phone company for G3 or G4. It ticks me off when my son's DS has better connectivity then most the WiFi products available.


It always shocks me when i hear about people in the US without internet, or just dialup.



The US is all about who is going to pay for it, or better yet how a can a profit be made. Mesh networking technology is built into my son's DS. It is also in the $100 notebook that they are making for kids in 3rd world countries. But for me to buy any mesh network equipment, I am looking close to $1,000 for a modem that has mesh ability.

Mesh networking would be ideal for netbooks, but in the US companies even try to profit off the air.


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25 Nov 2009, 4:05 pm

Am I correct in thinking that this OS does not come with any apps and if for example you wish to use office a small licence fee is required?


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25 Nov 2009, 4:12 pm

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Many other nations subsidize tech implementation, so that may be part of it.


True, here in Australia the telephony was 100% owned by the state, which means that there is good copper coverage throughout the country, which has resulted in the vast majority (high 90%s) able to get ADSL. Now the state is heavily subsidizing fibre optic to the house to every town with 1000 or more people, those who do not qualify will be getting 12mbs wifi or advanced satellite.


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25 Nov 2009, 4:16 pm

Well, if'n I remember correctly, the US has 90% more people than Canada...;)

Nothing wrong with that; it's just, like banks, any service here 'goes where the money is'.
Any major population center or good-sized town will have Broadband; the major cable chain (wait, they're all local monopolies...oops..;) all offer Broadband. Heck, my phone is Voip, I've got cable an Internet all through 1 pipe. So if I don't pay my bill, I can't even tell anyone about it...;)

Sad to say, between Ubuntu and Xp, I'm good...;) I'd rather have my data stay within these walls, if you don't mind...;)


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25 Nov 2009, 4:48 pm

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Am I correct in thinking that this OS does not come with any apps and if for example you wish to use office a small licence fee is required?


More like this OS can only run Chrome (the browser) and all apps you run must be web-based.



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25 Nov 2009, 5:22 pm

From what I have heard the Chrome OS is completely based around Google's internet browser. The OS also is, supposedly, not going to be available for download (though a test VMware virtual machine test version has already been released), this would mean that the only way to get the OS would be by buying a new netbook, and these netbooks will not have a hard drive and so installing a second OS would be impossible (though booting off a external hard drive may work). If this is true then I think that Google is going too far and Chrome OS will not be very successful. (unless, of course, the Chrome netbooks are extremely cheap)



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25 Nov 2009, 7:47 pm

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Odd for Fort Lauderdale to have problems with Internet.


ok, so I asked. It had to do with fear of and/or theft of cable services. Some neighbourhoods lack copper due to the abject poverty and the supposition that services will be patched into illegally. In my friends case, shes in an okay neighbourhood, but she said even some of those are screened by bad neighbourhoods and thus, cable doesnt reach.

In my case in Canada, we all pay for the service too, but development bylaws specify that neighbourhoods be completely serviced by the time people move it. Power, Water, hydrants, street lights, road signs, school in reasonable distance, telephone services, cable, mail, sewage and garbage pick up.

Apparently this can be overlooked in places in the states. About the only thing we are not guaranteed is paved roads, and to be honest, there are no permanent gravel roads in my town. Even the local trailer parks are all paved. Usually the streets are paved before the houses are started. If not, within the year.


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Am I correct in thinking that this OS does not come with any apps and if for example you wish to use office a small licence fee is required?


More like this OS can only run Chrome (the browser) and all apps you run must be web-based.


And I believe the use of some app's will cost


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