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12 Mar 2011, 8:05 pm

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Maybe calculus based physics is too much for you. Try some baby food at Wikipedia

I'm doing graduate-level work in mathematics, biology, and physics. Nice try though.


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12 Mar 2011, 8:41 pm

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Maybe calculus based physics is too much for you. Try some baby food at Wikipedia

I'm doing graduate-level work in mathematics, biology, and physics. Nice try though.


And yet you object to the equilibrium of energy on this planet. Clearly you missed a few classes.


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12 Mar 2011, 9:05 pm

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Did you read the essay?


I did. The math was trivial so it could not have been good physics.

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Good god man. You don't use an integral when a sum is sufficient. What does abstraction level of math have to do with it? So if I dress it up in set theoretic notation that suddenly makes it a stronger argument even if the underlying logic is identical? Sometimes simplicity is exactly what's called for. Surely you've heard of Occam's Razor? Not the funkified popular version but what the real one says? Don't needlessly multiply complexity.


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12 Mar 2011, 9:17 pm

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Did you read the essay?


I did. The math was trivial so it could not have been good physics.

ruveyn


Good god man. You don't use an integral when a sum is sufficient. What does abstraction level of math have to do with it? So if I dress it up in set theoretic notation that suddenly makes it a stronger argument even if the underlying logic is identical? Sometimes simplicity is exactly what's called for. Surely you've heard of Occam's Razor? Not the funkified popular version but what the real one says? Don't needlessly multiply complexity.

Not a word on conservation laws, not a word on symmetries, not a word on particles and not a word on fields. So where is the physics?

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12 Mar 2011, 9:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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wavefreak58 wrote:

Did you read the essay?


I did. The math was trivial so it could not have been good physics.

ruveyn


Good god man. You don't use an integral when a sum is sufficient. What does abstraction level of math have to do with it? So if I dress it up in set theoretic notation that suddenly makes it a stronger argument even if the underlying logic is identical? Sometimes simplicity is exactly what's called for. Surely you've heard of Occam's Razor? Not the funkified popular version but what the real one says? Don't needlessly multiply complexity.

Not a word on conservation laws, not a word on symmetries, not a word on particles and not a word on fields. So where is the physics?

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Conservation Laws and such are well known. I didn't think it necessary to explain them.


The essay is about the result of fully objective and quantitative costing. Can you at least tell me what's wrong with that? The key point is "objective and quantitative". Any objective and quantitative measure is deterministic, right? By definition, an objective, quantitative measure always gives the same result, right?


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12 Mar 2011, 9:38 pm

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Orwell wrote:
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Maybe calculus based physics is too much for you. Try some baby food at Wikipedia

I'm doing graduate-level work in mathematics, biology, and physics. Nice try though.


And yet you object to the equilibrium of energy on this planet. Clearly you missed a few classes.

Once again you display your staggering ignorance of basic concepts. The total energy of the Earth is irrelevant to humans. What is relevant is the energy that exists in forms we can usefully harness. The energy that plants trap from the sun becomes useful to us. Heat that is radiated out to space is already of a form largely useless to us.


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12 Mar 2011, 9:46 pm

Orwell wrote:
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Orwell wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
Maybe calculus based physics is too much for you. Try some baby food at Wikipedia

I'm doing graduate-level work in mathematics, biology, and physics. Nice try though.


And yet you object to the equilibrium of energy on this planet. Clearly you missed a few classes.

Once again you display your staggering ignorance of basic concepts. The total energy of the Earth is irrelevant to humans. What is relevant is the energy that exists in forms we can usefully harness. The energy that plants trap from the sun becomes useful to us. Heat that is radiated out to space is already of a form largely useless to us.


And you exhibit a staggering arrogance in assuming I don't KNOW this. You are so busy measuring your intellectual penis that you can't think outside of your spooge filled box.


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