Manned mission to Venus

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As far as I know I don't think it would be possible. However, it would be fun to try and see if we can send an unmanned vehicle over there.

I don't think the sulphuric acid in the Venusian atmosphere would be much of a problem because its high up in the atmosphere and is quite tenuous. Vasmir once developed and powered by some sort of nuclear reactor would get the astronauts to Venus quite quickly. One way to take of from the surface is to take advantage of the thick atmosphere with a rocket plane. On take of it would hover, to do away with a runway then it would fly like a normal aircraft to an altitude where theres less drag then fire the rocket engines in order to get to the mothership. The problem would be the weight of the fuel source. An interesting problem non the less but not one I take to seriously.

What if an alien artifact was located on Venus and a spacecraft was sent to retrieve it. There would be a very strong interest by Nasa, ESA ETC to find out what it is. This is not as far fetched as it seems. If an alien coke can drifts for millions of years and ends up on the moon it would stand out easily and would'nt have deteriorated much in no atmosphere.

I'm not against exploring Venus, I'm just curious who is paying for the development of the technology and where the money for the mission is going to come from.

It's not exactly like a mission to Venus is a once in 80+ year window of opportunity. We can put it off until the technology is cheaper.

Can't the Venusians come here? Lazy sods.

Move it first. In a counter Earth orbit it would cool off.

It will take thousands of years, but the results will be worth it.

Leaching metals with acid is standard recovery, and here is a planet size mine.

How something smaller than Earth holds on to such an atmosphere brings up questions. There have been views that it is not original to this solar system, something that came recently.

As something degassing, forming a Sulphuric Acid reflux, the surface should be coated in metal sulphides.

Sulphuric Acid is stored in glass, and with the atmospheric pressure, a large Japanese fishing float could be made to survive, and weigh nothing at the surface. Getting the ore back into orbit takes more than we have, costs more than it is worth, today, but once the prospect was assayed, people will think about how. Gold, Copper, Silver, are not surface minerals. On Venus they are.

I would go after the Asteriod Belt first. Some of our meteors are pure Nickel/iron, something found near the core of a planet, and deeper, gold, Silver, and the greater mass minerals. If it was a planet that got smashed, there are chunks of pure core out there.

Some larger asteriods pass Earth orbit, then go out to the belt, Self powered, a kilometer long, something that can be hollowed out for shielding, habitat, and with spin, artifical gravity.

The energy needs would be minor to pick up sections of core, tether them, and later drop them in Earth orbit.

If we are ever going to build a real space ship, it will be built in orbit, with materials gathered off planet. Shipping, and other reasons, keep us from building a proper kilometer bubble with a skin of gold several meters thick.

Without shielding, we will not last long enough to get anywhere. The skin has to be thick enough to form craters from impacts. Gold works, and can be patched. High mass works best for the slingshot out of here.

Rocket fuel is not going to work for the next solar system, a mechanical start and stop is the only way. Only gold would be looking new when the ship arrives 10,000 years later.

We have been gaining some insight into other stars, their planets, but expecting more than water is wishful thinking. Venus is earth size, but would not make it as a colony.

Finding life would most likely kill you, for us to survive, kill everything and reseed. Just the first landing could take a thousand years.

Most will fail, but the odds of species survival on earth for 10,000 years are very low.

Then there is who gets sent. A Cracked article says only a few percent of our DNA makes us, the rest is filler from retroviruses, Neanderthal and another sub species I have never heard of, and like my computer programs, something I use a few percent over time.

Being apes, Mammals, more was picked up before we were us. It is dormant now, but in a small gene pool for 500 generations, evolution will be tested.

We have nothing to lose, lets infect the Universe.

All colonies will become sub species. On earth we have genetic leakage, in space what you start with is reduced in every generation.