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25 Feb 2014, 5:01 pm

LupaLuna wrote:
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The Moon (or Mars) doesn't have enough gravity to prevent loss of bone mass and muscle atrophy. Furthermore, the Moon has no atmosphere apart from very small amounts of argon and helium, so you won't have anything to convert into oxygen--or anything to protect you from radiation.


We don't quite know that. We know that there will be loss of bone and muscle atrophy in a zero gravity environment but there has not any research into how low gravity between Earth's and micro-gravity will affect muscle or how much bone or muscle will be lost with varying amounts of gravity. The moon does is not a micro-gravity environment, it's gravity is a 6th of the amount on Earth, therefore you would still be using at least some muscle when moving about in the moon's gravity. There may still be some loss in muscle mass but it won't be as much as is seen in astronauts living on a space station. Besides, it can be mitigated by exercise.


What about Artificial Gravity as well?


Artificial gravity is easier on a space station in orbit around the Earth like the ISS, all you have to do is rotate it. However, on the surface of a body like the moon, you have to worry about friction, so you can't just rotate bases like in space or use conveyer belts without using up extra energy resources.


if you read my post earlier. I was talking about using centrifuges

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To address the low gravity issue. You could use centrifuges for increased gravity. People could sleep in them at night and be subjected to 1.5G to compensate for the low gravity.


That's what I was talking about as well. One would use centrifuges in order to simulate artificial gravity.



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25 Feb 2014, 6:28 pm

Have fun, I am staying. I don't want to be on any celestial body that you can't grow hops.



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26 Feb 2014, 2:31 am

What would be the point of going to the moon? Just getting away? I mean, then what? It would be pretty much the same as moving into a deserted island but without all the trouble of terraforming a celestial body and settling there. But don't worry, It'll take a while for machines taking over, and by then we would probably have lots of thins to do with our leisure time.



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26 Feb 2014, 12:26 pm

krankes_hirn wrote:
What would be the point of going to the moon? Just getting away? I mean, then what? It would be pretty much the same as moving into a deserted island but without all the trouble of terraforming a celestial body and settling there. But don't worry, It'll take a while for machines taking over, and by then we would probably have lots of thins to do with our leisure time.


Three reasons, at least:

1. Mining Helium 3
2. The Dark Side would be the world premier site for astronomical observation. So close to the earth, yet airless and black two weeks of the year. And ---- no Earth glow.
3. The Moon is a shallower gravity well than Earth. The Moon could be the future shipyard for our space flights and exploration.

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26 Feb 2014, 2:35 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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What would be the point of going to the moon? Just getting away? I mean, then what? It would be pretty much the same as moving into a deserted island but without all the trouble of terraforming a celestial body and settling there. But don't worry, It'll take a while for machines taking over, and by then we would probably have lots of thins to do with our leisure time.


Three reasons, at least:

1. Mining Helium 3
2. The Dark Side would be the world premier site for astronomical observation. So close to the earth, yet airless and black two weeks of the year. And ---- no Earth glow.
3. The Moon is a shallower gravity well than Earth. The Moon could be the future shipyard for our space flights and exploration.

ruveyn


Those are quite valid points, but I'm talking about OP talking about moving to the moon to start over. As an extension of our civilization it would make a lot of sense to build settlements on the moon, but as a place to start over or to get away doesn't seem to make too much sense.



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27 Feb 2014, 5:26 am

krankes_hirn wrote:
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What would be the point of going to the moon? Just getting away? I mean, then what? It would be pretty much the same as moving into a deserted island but without all the trouble of terraforming a celestial body and settling there. But don't worry, It'll take a while for machines taking over, and by then we would probably have lots of thins to do with our leisure time.


Three reasons, at least:

1. Mining Helium 3
2. The Dark Side would be the world premier site for astronomical observation. So close to the earth, yet airless and black two weeks of the year. And ---- no Earth glow.
3. The Moon is a shallower gravity well than Earth. The Moon could be the future shipyard for our space flights and exploration.

ruveyn


Those are quite valid points, but I'm talking about OP talking about moving to the moon to start over. As an extension of our civilization it would make a lot of sense to build settlements on the moon, but as a place to start over or to get away doesn't seem to make too much sense.


You can't start over by living on the moon. You need technology in order for the moon to be liveable.