Differences between races and the new terminology

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Culture is part of the environment, so it does cause biological evolution---only very slowly compared with modern cultural evolution itself and migrations.

At what point does it not connect with you that it is an argument that it is not biology. It is all about culture.

Nye and all those other people are saying there is no biological difference only tribalism. Tribalism is about culture only. If you are different for any reason, I should not/must not trust you. That only addresses social issues that do not account for isolation for a variety of reasons that caused a divergence of the species into different adaptive forms.

There are only two ways to interpret that:
1. ) Tribalism is the new word to replace race.
2. ) Culture defines people, not biology

The major races are radically different on the macro scale. Skulls, proportions etc.
Being tribal (Culture) did not do that. Being on islands and continents and any other form of isolation. Natural selection did that. Not tribal beliefs or culture.

Tribalism enforces and refines, but does not form the basis of those differences.

It's pure biology that drives it all. Culture just steers it a bit.

I am approaching this as a cause and effect. One of the fallacies I see is a cause and effect relationship and not taking into account just how wide spread humanity was and, in such small clusters. It's not like they ran into each other all the time.

But, people move out as a group. They leave homogeny behind at that point. They travel and thousands of years later, geographical. environmental/etc forces act on those groups.

The largest deviation of races are the greatest distances from each other. They all have similar macroscopic morphologies.

The tribal part influences and reinforces, but is not the root cause. And, culture did not stop Cromagnon from banging some Neanderthals....that is a biological influence they are just discovering and how it affects things.

Regardless of how things changed, biology was the root cause, not a correlating effect of culture or tribal influences.

I recommend reading Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari.

Of course there is race! When our species started to migrate from Africa and settle in different isolated populations around the world, each breeding within themselves as well as with other human species in the regions (which has been genetically documented), they developed different phenotypes that were selected through sexual selection and natural selection. It is clear there are races, and I find it normal to be unconsciously "racist" after generations and generations of war between different populations/tribes/countries, as being suspicious of someone that does not look you or your community was survival for our ancestors.

Today, with globalisation, race is pretty much irrelevant. The isolation is being lost, and we all interbreed now, racism is now inappropriate and irrational - our racial phenotypes does no longer dictate culture or nationality. Then comes the question, what is nationality? It is certainly not based on DNA (though the body may be affected by the environment differently) as many racist right winged twats what you to believe. Nationality is based in behaviour. With middle eastern migration into Europe since the Iraq war, I see many first generation arabic europeans behave EXACTLY like natives. I am lucky enough to have dual citizenship (mixed biological race) in Europe, so I can observe this first hand in northern and southern Europe when I travel between them.

Note that, culturally, race is irrelevant, but race and gender should be considered in medicine and pharmaceuticals. It shouldn't be completely ignored, as much as we culturally want to abolish these differences.

So I find that there are biological races in terms of pigmentation, physical characteristics, immunology and digestive systems - obviously we are all adapted to different environments, diets and different sexual preferences - but biological race does not dictate "cultural tribes".

That quote in Yahoo seems misplaced. Why would Bill Nye say something strange as "there is no race"? Maybe he means "race" as in how "race" is often used colloquially?