What is the most advanced math subject of all time?

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06 Aug 2016, 12:15 pm

Edenthiel wrote:

A: Trickle-down economics in the real world

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Economics may use mathematical procedures but it is not mathematics or mathematical....


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06 Aug 2016, 8:53 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
You may find "Combinatorics" a very hard subject, because you do a lot of induction , contrary to other maths where you mostly do deductive reasoning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

I think this is the first math where I had to do inductive proofs.

I have a nitpick here. The common process of "proof-by-induction" on the natural numbers, i.e. mathematical induction, is not an example of inductive reasoning. The rigorous deductive justification of "proof-by-induction" is given in books on axiomatic set theory. In other texts a version of the process follows directly from one of the Peano axioms (Outside of set theory, the Peano axioms are usually stated without proof - set theory allows one to prove them as theorems). In any case, mathematical induction is justified via logical deduction combined with primitive axioms. Inductive reasoning is used in science, not mathematics. Mathematics is 100% deductive.



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06 Aug 2016, 9:08 pm

KDS wrote:
I think the most advanced is where multiple dimensions and the black holes come into play who knows!

You're probably looking for differential geometry. It is an advanced course, but probably not the most difficult subject in all of mathematics. It was difficult enough that Einstein needed help from a mathematician in order to apply it to his general theory of relativity. There weren't any good text books on the subject at that time.



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16 Aug 2016, 3:52 pm

Long division, although my maths knowledge doesn't extend past trigonometry, teachers never gave me a chance to go higher, but my career no longer employs the need for maths.

If we're talking about the most advanced humanity has ever faced, I guess it would be a theory of possibly what exists beyond our physical limitations like what's on the other side of a black hole.



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17 Aug 2016, 2:18 am

marshall wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
You may find "Combinatorics" a very hard subject, because you do a lot of induction , contrary to other maths where you mostly do deductive reasoning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorics

I think this is the first math where I had to do inductive proofs.

I have a nitpick here. The common process of "proof-by-induction" on the natural numbers, i.e. mathematical induction, is not an example of inductive reasoning. The rigorous deductive justification of "proof-by-induction" is given in books on axiomatic set theory. In other texts a version of the process follows directly from one of the Peano axioms (Outside of set theory, the Peano axioms are usually stated without proof - set theory allows one to prove them as theorems). In any case, mathematical induction is justified via logical deduction combined with primitive axioms. Inductive reasoning is used in science, not mathematics. Mathematics is 100% deductive.


The conclusions are deductive, but it still takes inductive reasoning to get to the end result. If it only requires deductive reasoning, it could be solved by a computer, and if it could be solved by a computer, it would already be solved because mathematicians are good with computers. :P

Scorpius14 wrote:
If we're talking about the most advanced humanity has ever faced, I guess it would be a theory of possibly what exists beyond our physical limitations like what's on the other side of a black hole.


No, the most advanced math has nothing to do with physical reality.


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