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08 Aug 2008, 11:04 am

I never build AMDs. I have a preference for Intel and would never give a customer something they didn't want. If someone wants an AMD, then that's a different story.

I try to educate people, let them know they can get more bang for their buck, and really I'm not out to sell anything to anyone as there is no mark up on computer hardware.

I hate dishonesty in the marketplace, I hate that people are taken advantage of, so yeah, I do my best to make sure they know exactly what they are getting and involve them in the process as much as possible.

I've been known to snag people in a store who are looking at anti-virus software and let them know of the reliable freebies available :)


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08 Aug 2008, 1:31 pm

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I never build AMDs. I have a preference for Intel and would never give a customer something they didn't want. If someone wants an AMD, then that's a different story.

I try to educate people, let them know they can get more bang for their buck, and really I'm not out to sell anything to anyone as there is no mark up on computer hardware.

I hate dishonesty in the marketplace, I hate that people are taken advantage of, so yeah, I do my best to make sure they know exactly what they are getting and involve them in the process as much as possible.

I've been known to snag people in a store who are looking at anti-virus software and let them know of the reliable freebies available :)



Well Intels are more solid and powerful in most cases. You maybe a honest repair person but a lot are not. I know somebody who works at a computer repair shop that i used to work with at school. One day the guy cursed out a 14-Year Old because he was talking about how Windows Vista is the best because he can TiVo shows on his computer.[ The guy was 20-Years Old when he did this.]

I also happen to know the manager at the same shop who told an old lady to buy a $3000 machine just to check her E-Mail and use Ms Word.[Well the manager was going to build it.]
Now telling an old lady she needs Dual 500GB Hard Drives, An AMD Quad-Core, And on top of that a $400 Video Card and 2 Dual-Layer DVD Burners along with 4GB DDR3 Memory and Vista Ultimate. Shame on him, well than again he also didn't feel sorry for the person he sold a 733Mhz PIII to for $400.

If the Nerds and Geeks of America aren't ripping off the Blue-Collar Man out of hard earned money they are probably Pirating software. Its a shame what America has turned to when it comes to technology. I know a person who would rather pirate Office 2007 Ultimate Edition that to just stick with a free alternative like Open Office.



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08 Aug 2008, 3:32 pm

I swear by open-source software, and I use my share of commercial stuff. I'm about saving people money, there are plenty ripping them off, and once they figure it out, who do they go to? Me I hope :)

As far as piracy goes, I wouldn't appreciate my hard work copied and given away, so I don't appreciate that for others as well.

Just who I am. Everyone has their own angle...mine is just trying to do the right thing. My husband and I have both worked for shady sleazy people out to make a buck at any cost. None of them are in business today..wonder why? :) Had we known this was they way they did business we wouldn't have been involved in the first place.

We each have our own small clientelle of people we service computers and electronics for, and we aren't willing to risk our integrity or our reputation.


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08 Aug 2008, 4:44 pm

bunni is a she? 8O


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08 Aug 2008, 8:10 pm

Bunni wrote:
I swear by open-source software, and I use my share of commercial stuff. I'm about saving people money, there are plenty ripping them off, and once they figure it out, who do they go to? Me I hope :)

As far as piracy goes, I wouldn't appreciate my hard work copied and given away, so I don't appreciate that for others as well.

Just who I am. Everyone has their own angle...mine is just trying to do the right thing. My husband and I have both worked for shady sleazy people out to make a buck at any cost. None of them are in business today..wonder why? :) Had we known this was they way they did business we wouldn't have been involved in the first place.

We each have our own small clientelle of people we service computers and electronics for, and we aren't willing to risk our integrity or our reputation.



I believe in this. Stealing software off the internet is just as bad as stealing from a store. Accept your stealing the data alone and not the cd and the plastic the software comes in. You and I have a lot in common when it comes to computer. Well than again I'm a Old-Fashioned Conservative that believes in that. My best bet is never work for sleazy people and if you do fire them on the spot when they do something crooked. Believe it or not but on all computers i build and repair i install all open-source software.[ Well besides Windows.] Even then I provide Linux to people who want it.



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09 Aug 2008, 3:42 pm

computerlove wrote:
bunni is a she? 8O


Yep :)


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13 Aug 2008, 12:38 am

CPU: C2Q q6600 OC'd to 3GHz
RAM: 4GB OCZ Gold DDR2 800MHz RAM (4-5-5-13)
GPU: Geforce 9800GTX (getting an 8600 for Physx use)
Mobo: Asus P5K
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OS: Vista 32bit, Ubuntu, OSX Leopard on triple boot (all run perfectly)
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16 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

Paddy789 wrote:
CPU: C2Q q6600 OC'd to 3GHz
RAM: 4GB OCZ Gold DDR2 800MHz RAM (4-5-5-13)
GPU: Geforce 9800GTX (getting an 8600 for Physx use)
Mobo: Asus P5K
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PSU: Coolermaster M620 (620 watts)
Case: Thermalake Shark
OS: Vista 32bit, Ubuntu, OSX Leopard on triple boot (all run perfectly)
Other: Pioneer Blu-Ray Drive



Why not get Vista 64-Bit. You can probaly handle that better than 32-Bit.



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16 Aug 2008, 12:10 pm

I agree with gamefreak. More people need to take adoption of the 64 bit operating systems. It makes better use of the potential of your hardware(especially the ram).


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16 Aug 2008, 12:35 pm

Can't be bothered to type everything in so I just copied from my Xfire profile

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Memory:
2046MB (2GB) RAM Dual Channel 667MHz
Hard Drive:
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MIDI- ATX, in need of a server type.


What's the deal with 64 bit computers that run 32 bit operating systems?
"I got a 64 bit computer running Windows XP Home, therefore my computer is more powerful than yours at 32bit running Home" (example in case someone wants to criticise)



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16 Aug 2008, 12:40 pm

Keith wrote:
Can't be bothered to type everything in so I just copied from my Xfire profile

Manufacturer:
Home Made by myself
Processor:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2.01GHz
Memory:
2046MB (2GB) RAM Dual Channel 667MHz
Hard Drive:
476GB (500GB S-ATA2@375MBpsapprox) 7200rpm
Video Card:
MSI nVidia GeForce 7300LE 256MB PCI-E
Monitor:
SAMTRON 76E
Sound Card:
Realtek High Definition Audio
Speakers/Headphones:
Stereo speakers with excellent bass
Keyboard:
PS/2 Chicony Windows 98
Mouse:
PS/2 5 Button optical
Mouse Surface:
Desktop beside keyboard - same level
Operating System:
Windows XP Pro x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790) Service Pack 2 (3790.srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710)
Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G
Computer Case:
MIDI- ATX, in need of a server type.


What's the deal with 64 bit computers that run 32 bit operating systems?
"I got a 64 bit computer running Windows XP Home, therefore my computer is more powerful than yours at 32bit running Home" (example in case someone wants to criticise)



Has Service Pack 3 came out for 64-Bit XP yet. If so I would suggest you get it. The Service Pack clears up a lot of issues. You should be able to get it from windows update.



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16 Aug 2008, 3:41 pm

gamefreak wrote:
Paddy789 wrote:
CPU: C2Q q6600 OC'd to 3GHz
RAM: 4GB OCZ Gold DDR2 800MHz RAM (4-5-5-13)
GPU: Geforce 9800GTX (getting an 8600 for Physx use)
Mobo: Asus P5K
HD: 10,000RPM SATA Samsung 250GB/7200RPM IDE 120GB/320GB 720RPM external
Sound: Onboard
PSU: Coolermaster M620 (620 watts)
Case: Thermalake Shark
OS: Vista 32bit, Ubuntu, OSX Leopard on triple boot (all run perfectly)
Other: Pioneer Blu-Ray Drive



Why not get Vista 64-Bit. You can probaly handle that better than 32-Bit.


I will, but I only have 32bit at the moment. Disc came with my laptop. :P



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16 Aug 2008, 4:08 pm

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Has Service Pack 3 came out for 64-Bit XP yet. If so I would suggest you get it. The Service Pack clears up a lot of issues. You should be able to get it from windows update.


XP 64bit is only similar in appearance to XP SP2 (5.1) 5.2 is built on the same core as Windows Server 2003 so many issues that are apparent in XP 32 are not as apparent in XP 64.



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16 Aug 2008, 4:29 pm

Keith wrote:
What's the deal with 64 bit computers that run 32 bit operating systems?
"I got a 64 bit computer running Windows XP Home, therefore my computer is more powerful than yours at 32bit running Home" (example in case someone wants to criticise)


No deal unless they are taking advantage if that 64 bits with a 64 bit windows version.

If you think about people, we tend to be good at 7 digit numbers.. exactly what most phone numbers are. There is nothing special about that, it just comes from practice. Likewise a 32 bit OS can deal with 32 bit numbers or up to values of 4,294,967,296 without "thinking" about it. A 64 bit OS handles twice this(assuming the hardware does too), for a total of 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 discrete values. A 32 bit computer would need to tackle that in at least 2 steps.

So the 64 bit machine can possibly do things faster.

In addition, the design of 32 bit motherboards limits the total memory locations to 4 gigabytes(and its often less than that). See how that relates to 4,294,967,296? I luck out on my 32 bit windows and it shows 3.5 gigs. Apparently windows does something that makes the other 0.5 gigs unaddressable, though the bios shows it.

A 64 bit version can handle more. Way more. My 64 bit Ubuntu shows the full 4 gigs, and it could 18,446,744,073,709,551,61 or so bytes of ram. Thats called 16 exbibytes of addressable memory.

18,446,744,073,709,551,615
00,000,000,004,294,967,296

Shows a comparison of how much more that 64 bit can address. The left most 4 in the second number is the 4 gigabyte range.

Incidently a 128 bit computer can address 274,877,906,944 yottabytes. Thats a yotta ram. ;)


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16 Aug 2008, 4:43 pm

A misunderstanding I think ....

I find many 64 bit computers are being wasted with extra potential from the processor as the software will only communicate through the processor at half of what it's truly capable of - so better stuck with 32 bit hardware.

I understand 32bit 64bit. With the way computers are a processor will not be able to be made in serial form such as the common US Bus.

In the UK we have 11 digit numbers, same goes for mobile/cell phones. Excluding fixed lines where the common length is 6, London and Birmingham are 7

Bottom line is - I understand 32bit 64 bit, b,B,KB - through to ZB, I think Zeta is greater than Yotta.
:lol: Yotta RAM :lol:



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16 Aug 2008, 4:52 pm

Partial misunderstanding, yes.

I also like to write for those that are reading out of curiosity. Helping them understand is good.

Agreed: most software is still 32 bit. We need to push people to use 64 bit so that changes.


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