Are UFO's real?

Post Reply New Topic

no credible objective evidence exists that non-terrestrial intelligent beings have visited our planet. No artifacts of non-terrestrial origin have ever been put on public display or open to public scrutiny. All we have are unsubstantiated claims.

When a space ship on non-terrestrial origin lands in central park in New York City or on the Mall in Washington DC, then we will have our evidence.

Non lunar beings have landed on our Moon and have cluttered the moonscape with all sorts of non-lunar artifacts and some clear foot prints too.

That is the wort of thing I want to see from non-terrestrial being landing here.

ruveyn

Then you will have to wait years for that.

But I did look it up, and unlike you I investigated and understood the technicalities involved. Hint: ex- radio and TV technician with a career in electronics outside of that.
It's nowhere near as mysterious as you claim - but since that's all you do, weaving your little webs of mystery and intrigue where none exist - what's the point in continuing with you?
Incapable? Psh. I simply chose to not bother. Why would I, based on the factual inaccuracies and drivel in the one I did comment on?

What's puzzling me is why you've resurrected those two early posts of mine.
Is your campaign here running out of steam such that you need to dig up old posts?

I want to share something with you guys, not the kind of irrefutable, demonstrable, repeatable scientific triple proofed whatever the hell, just a sentence I read on Youtube..

"There exists a belief in the academic community that pictures its species as the greatest in all of creation, and in possession of qualities and attributes found nowhere else."

i doubt it. Our species may be unique, but characterizing as greater or lesser? I doubt whether any genuine biologist would subscribe to that views.

ruveyn

That one sentence you read on YouTube is based on what observed facts?

Almost every scientist I've heard of believes the opposite of what you're insinuating here.

Engaging you in conversation is like arguing with a book.

I appreciate the compliment.

I am beginning to suspect I may have said something that offended you in the past Cornflake.

For starters, what is "the academic community"? The only academics that matter when it comes to this sort of question are astrophysicists and biologists. And from what I've heard, both groups tend to believe in extraterrestrial intelligence.

Astrophysicists tend to believe in extraterrestrial intelligence because they understand the huge numbers of opportunities for life out there, and biologists tend to believe in extraterrestrial intelligence because they understand how life can emerge from non-life.

There is a tendency towards savage rebuttal by those whom posture themselves as spokespeople for scientists and academics against anyone advancing a belief in the existence of extraterrestrials.
Please read back over this thread.

How about you read back over this thread.

I don't think anyone here is against the possibility of extraterrestrial life out there, just that the current evidence for extraterrestrial UFOs is pretty poor (if there's any such evidence). And in this case, most scientists would agree that those are not necessarily extraterrestrial UFOs. You'll have to do a much better job than just saying that a bunch of human beings saw some unidentified flying objects in the sky if you wish to convince the scientific community and skeptics in general of the validity of your claims.

Reject the evidence, look no further.

Christian fundies will tell you the exact opposite- that all of science has been hijacked by a bunch of Darwin loving materialists who spread "the lie that humans are just animals, and were not specially created in the image of God, and alone among species were given a soul.. etc etc".

For some reason you martyrs are being persecuted by the establishment for contradictory reasons.

Not at all.
One way or another it's been quite amusing really, and a real education of the degree to which the word "evidence" is misunderstood - especially, and consistently, by the proponents of extra-terrestrial visitors and UFOs.
You destroy your own case, even as you seek to defend it.