Are UFO's real?

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Anyone who won't give up after losing an argument marches to the beating of a dead horse.

Merely conforming to the dominant view shows no guts nor initiative.

Believing in myths allows you the comfort of having an opinion without the discomfort of having to think.

The same is true of conforming to the dominant view.

they are not real

this is a american secret program by the cia

Covered up by an American secret program by the cia.

APPARENTLY THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE MISTAKE.
THE WORLD JUST IS NOT READY FOR THIS SORT OF CONTACT.

If ever a thread should be deleted, this thread is it.

If the UFO's really are alien spaceships, then it does not look like the "pilots" is interested in contact.
Well well, i look forward to May 3rd anyway.

If you all would be so kind to look at this vid...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRq_MvT33pA[/youtube]

As Dr. Phil would say it:

You can't be that arrogant?

Suppressed NASA image from 1969


hoax or real by salem44dream, on Flickr

Hoax.

The shadows on the ascent stage and that orange thing in the back come from two different directions.

What do you mean by suppressed NASA image?

Any evidence for that claim?

I do believe that (sober and sane) people are seeing things in the sky that they shouldn't be. I just err more to the side that it's a set-up.

On the saucers though Tom Horn and Chris Putnam will have a book out on April 15th called Exo-Vaticana. As a Catholic its more than a little disturbing to me what kinds of high strangeness is going on in terms of a mass intellectual debate that they're having at the highest levels of the church on the topic of whether alien/extra-terrestrial beings are 'saved', claims that we'll be meeting them imminently, claims even that they may be spiritually superior to us and that their take on eschatology/theology may be vastly superior to our own.

A bit like that horse in the gif above 2Thessalonias 2:11 (the strong delusion) has been getting rinsed these days like no other.

For a whole other dimension of this as well look up Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelly and the 'Enochian' language as well as the 49 Enochian keys (circa 1580). Then go forward about 340ish years, 1918, and look into Aleister Crowley's 19 day invocation of the Enochian keys in the desert of Algeria.

Apparently those who love to oooh and ahhh at the sight of UFO's should be giving a special thanks to Aleister Crowley for opening the four gates and making all the photo-ops and intimate encounters possible.

Very good. I'm going to have to work harder on studying the lighting and shadows before I open Photoshop. Teapot lids on eBay are the best source, though, for hoax UFO images (that's what this one is).