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28 Feb 2011, 12:02 pm

I learn a lot from your posts.

Surely there are certain areas which offer a lot more geothermal potental than others? Do you happen to know of any good locations which we could make use of?


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28 Feb 2011, 4:45 pm

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To be fair, I have an idea for using String Theory to power existing coal burning plants that will make them 10% more efficent, It will take a $200 Million dollar grant and years, and some new technology being built, and will advance science.


1. Theories do not power anything.
2. There is barely an iota of plausible evidence that supports String Theory.

See Lee Smolin's book -The Trouble With Physics-.

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28 Feb 2011, 5:50 pm

inventor was sarcastic
agreed on the senseless science, seen it up close.



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28 Feb 2011, 8:14 pm

AnotherOne wrote:
inventor was sarcastic
agreed on the senseless science, seen it up close.


I have no way of knowing whether someone is sarcastic or not unless they say so, and even then they might not be truthful.

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01 Mar 2011, 11:11 pm

First the $200,000,000, then I will tell you.

Geo thermal is everywhere. I have been looking for a dry oil well, but they are cement plugged.

It could be shallow. Drill well, case and cap, do a good job, pressure tight.

The full job, a six foot cement plug around the 12" casing, going down thirty foot, 1/3, two, and ten meters, for the rest of the world.

Drill down several hundred foot in a known dry rockwith casing. Lower an inner pipe, 6" with spacer/strainers on the outside, every three meters, or ten foot.

You will need some water on top, and a pressure pump. This is pumped into the inner pipe. At the top, a 10" valve stack, several stacked.

An outlet is piped from the outer casing to a steam turbine.

Now open the top valve, drop in a cylinder of Thermite, with a lit magnisum fuse, and close the valve. Thermite is made of rust and beer cans, flour, slows the burning, and sometimes copper for the lovely blue/green color. I would not post the details, do not try this at home, beer cans impair thinking.

Thermite burns at 5200 degrees, You have just built a volcano. It will vaporise most things, I like Titanium casings. Then a lot of just rock. Free drill below the cased part.

The result and operation. A puddle of liquid rock, a lot of pressure, and it is hot. It is also trapped, or launched, according to how well designed and built. Key hint, start with just a little Thermite charge.

Now pump water under pressure into the inner casing, 2,000 psi, and here comes another launch possibility, Have a steam relief valve on the outer casing that lets pressure escape through the turbine.

The spacer strainers are to keep water from blowing up the outer casing, which is like having rocks going through the turbine. Standard steam tech.

A double valve on top lets you drop in more thermite when the flow slows, it will burn under water, in steam, in outer space. Open top valve, drop in thermite, with a lit magnisium fuse, close and open bottom valve, hope real hard it drops down the pipe before it lights. Close bottom valve, run.

Anyway, it is cheap clean heat, and a lot of it, made of the most common materials,

My vision of this is a layer of superheated steam, above the fires of hell, capping it with pressure, and super heated steam can be denser than water. By pulling from the top the ash and rock stay below, so clean steam, at several thousand degrees. There is a bit of pressure involved,

It also heat insulates the casing, Titanium can take several thousand degrees, but becomes a vapor at 5200.

That is what we want as it goes through a multi expansion turbine, and cranks out big kilowatts.

The spent steam could warm an acre or ten of greenhouses. Or heat a small village. Both, and steam as power through the town.

The towns people will have to empty and save beer cans, soda cans, and collect rust.

The only by product is distilled water. Useful in the town and green houses.

The dangers are ground water, which as it flashes to steam would blow a huge hole in the ground, acres. There is water in even dry rock, Intersticial water, It will become steam, be prepared.

Once the tame volcano is in operation, it can be used forever. Do not be fooled by "Tame", it is just waiting for freedom. Give it the slightest chance, heat rises. Only the steam can rob the heat and control the beast.

If it blows. it is rock ash, water, and nothing extra dangerous or long lasting, mostly it would make richer garden soil. There is the well head, double casing, which could take a sub orbital path, or melt into the ground. It will burn out quickly on it's own. The new town land fill that is a vitried hole in the ground and good for many years.

An old coal burning power plant has all the turbines, generators, wiring, and is hooked to the grid. This is a lot cheaper heat than low grade coal, fires, stacks, boilers, and much cleaner.

I would do it, but at 65 I am grading my front yard, leveling the walk, and planting flowers. As I do not like lawns, I will plant a bank of red flowers where it used to be a boring green.

There are answers, within existing technology, cheap, long lasting, and somewhat safe. It is time for me to pass on projects I will never get around to. I am so old I am getting a sidecar for my motorcycle.

<---- my toy, had it for 35 years.

Have fun with The Dragon.



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05 Apr 2011, 9:16 am

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-nan ... iency.html


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05 Apr 2011, 10:34 am

PatrickNeville wrote:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-nanoparticles-solar-efficiency.html


Interesting. The main limitation of photo-voltaic conversion has been that most materials only convert a fraction of the solar spectrum into electron flow. Most of the energy of the sunlight (including ultra violet and infra-red) go to waste in producing current.

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05 Apr 2011, 12:43 pm

We edge closer and closer all the time. It is wonderful.

I made a post about us moving closer to having functional solar panels which use a large portion of the visible light spectrum. From now on I will post all solar related news on this thread.


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05 Apr 2011, 1:56 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:
We edge closer and closer all the time. It is wonderful.

I made a post about us moving closer to having functional solar panels which use a large portion of the visible light spectrum. From now on I will post all solar related news on this thread.


At this rate we will have viable photo-voltaic conversion by 2511.

Suggestion: do not hold your breath.

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05 Apr 2011, 2:42 pm

That is linear thinking. Exponential breakthroughs can happen out of nowhere and more people than ever have access to the internet and can communicate data with anyone or conduct in meaningful research from their own home with as little as a computer with internet access. Many areas of technology are set develop faster and faster as time goes on.

You will probably that this is based on nothing and that history shows that this never happens, but we are beginning to edge closer to having great knowledge of material properties and understanding more fundamental parts of physics all the time. Breakthroughs are round the corner.


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17 Apr 2011, 4:28 pm

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/04/solar- ... rs-by.html


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17 Apr 2011, 6:15 pm

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You keep repeating the same crap like people stealing from each other.



This happens to be a fact. A fact cannot be crap. Check out the police blotter page of your local news paper and see how many are arrested for theft, murder, assault and rape. Every single day of the year. Every single year of the century. Truth is truth.

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04 May 2011, 5:54 am

Interesting that we could make cheap panels with this spray on solar cell like compound
http://earthandindustry.com/2010/10/tat ... v-coating/


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04 May 2011, 7:29 am

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/micron ... pdate.html


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04 May 2011, 10:47 am

PatrickNeville wrote:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/micron-gap-thermalphotovoltaics-update.html


A potentially useful technology. There are several approaches that may reduce our collective carbon footprint.

1. Better photovoltaics.
2. Better bio-fuels.
3. Better efficiency. Increasing efficiency by 30 percent is like finding 2 new Saudi Arabias worth of oil.
4. Geothermal heat extraction
5. Cleaner burning of coal (of which we have hundreds of years)
6. Safer nuclear fission technology including breeder reactors to lessen the waste problem
7. Wind and tide energy sources.

methods to forget. Controlled nuclear fusion. It is not going to happen in the next hundred years. Nuclear fusion has been 30 years in the future for the last 50 years and is likely to remain so for the next 100 years.

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04 May 2011, 3:04 pm

ruveyn wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/micron-gap-thermalphotovoltaics-update.html


A potentially useful technology. There are several approaches that may reduce our collective carbon footprint.

1. Better photovoltaics.
2. Better bio-fuels.
3. Better efficiency. Increasing efficiency by 30 percent is like finding 2 new Saudi Arabias worth of oil.
4. Geothermal heat extraction
5. Cleaner burning of coal (of which we have hundreds of years)
6. Safer nuclear fission technology including breeder reactors to lessen the waste problem
7. Wind and tide energy sources.

methods to forget. Controlled nuclear fusion. It is not going to happen in the next hundred years. Nuclear fusion has been 30 years in the future for the last 50 years and is likely to remain so for the next 100 years.

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i agree with everything except the exception.

fusion might seem to be moving at a snails pacce but they are constantly getting better, when it will be a viable economic alternative i dont want to guess at.
also i think we should forget sustained fusion as it will definately be long in the future and focus on the various pulsed fusion methods being researched.


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