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15 Mar 2013, 2:51 am

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They have other uses.

I use mine along with a special adapter cable to charge my cell phone while driving.


It's a kludge. Large chunky connector that only exists to work with an existing piece of technology. When the connector is removed a gaping hole appears in the dashboard that fills up with dust and crud unless it is filled with a cigarette lighter or a rubber bung. A modern dashboard power connector would be more compact and there would be several of them to power multiple devices.

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-Flathead screws


I have thought about fastener heads. Are Philips heads still required nowadays? They were deliberately designed for the screwdriver tip to cam out under force in the days before automatic screwdrivers were torque limited to prevent overtightening. The exact opposite of Torx which are designed for maximum grip and power transfer between the screwdriver tip and the fastener.


Pity you Americans flat-out REFUSE to use our vastly-superior Canadian Robertson square-head screws. ;)



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15 Mar 2013, 6:19 am

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), printed magazines...

Not everyone got a tablet.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Www

Can be read when you need info.

(And solid state drives at around 60GB are pretty cheap now)

Beside spending a lot of time on internet, I still read magazines. And 60GB is not enough for a modern computer, my datas are overflowing on a TB drive.

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Stream turbines (still used in coal, oil, and nuclear power plants),

Because they efficients.

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CRT monitors. I have several friends who still use them.

CRTs are not made anymore, so the technology is already dead. Beside resolution though, CRTs are superior to TN LCD panels, and still superior to all technology beside OLED when it come to response time.

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Flash and its related technologies,[...]

How come? It's the best technology out there for storage in cellphones and for games in portable gaming.

CornerPuzzlePieces wrote:
You guys want to throw everything away without replacing it!! Hah.

Unless you know of another way to store electricity in a long lasting compact form, metals and electrolytes will have to do! Sheesh/ :)

I agree with that.

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-Shopping carts (ask if you need clarification lol)
Please do clarify.

So for the technology that refuse to die:

-zsnes; Peoples should have let go of this emulator a long time ago.

-Cloud Computing; This is new yes, but this is a absurdity that shouldn't even exist. A machine that depend on networks to work is vulnerable, as networks are vulnerable technology. There is only need of one network that go out, for other networks to follow, making whole regions (And potentially the world.) vulnerable to generalised technology failure. Machines should be built to be (As much as reasonably possible) autosufficients and able to work without network. That's why storage should be kept local.


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15 Mar 2013, 8:18 am

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Flash and its related technologies,[...]

How come? It's the best technology out there for storage in cellphones and for games in portable gaming.

Not flash storage, Adobe Flash, the useless liability.


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15 Mar 2013, 1:04 pm

Thatmew wrote:
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Flash and its related technologies,[...]

How come? It's the best technology out there for storage in cellphones and for games in portable gaming.

Not flash storage, Adobe Flash, the useless liability.


I agree there. Every time Falsh get an update. The more buggier it gets. I never look forward to flash updates at all.



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15 Mar 2013, 2:53 pm

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Nuts & bolts, a.k.a "threaded fasteners,"


Without nuts and bolts, you need welds, glue, or snap connectors, all of which make DIY repairs really hard.



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15 Mar 2013, 6:51 pm

I like old technology. I don't even like buying new technology. It took me til 2012 to even care about getting an HDTV for myself. Before that I just used CRTs, usually from the 1980s. And I have records, record players, cassettes. My last time taping an audio cassette was in like 2010 or 2011. Video cassette the same. I don't wish for any technology to die. I feel people are too petty with "killing" technology, and I see technology dying almost like it's an animal or a person dying. Think Island of Misfit Toys.

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Plastic bottles? An "advancement" that's not really one at all. Just use glass and just return the glass bottles to be washed out after and be reused instead of being recycled. But then us rich spoiled folks will complain our bottles are scratched up if we reuse glass bottles.

Cartridge/disposable razors. Totally pointless and wasteful. We should have stuck with the double edge and/or injectors. Double edge blades cost 10c and have no patents, though, so no cash to be made there.



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15 Mar 2013, 7:26 pm

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CDs

they are a world cheaper than the equivalent memory media in any other form, and it is impractical for me to leave my puter running all the time just to be able to listen to music whenever i want. i can't handle listening to nothing but compressed music on mp3 players, so CDs will continue to be an essential part of my world.



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15 Mar 2013, 7:28 pm

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E-mail

email accessed via PCs is still essential for those of us who can't afford smart phones or their associated monthly fees.



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15 Mar 2013, 7:30 pm

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Low definition DVD's refuse to die.

because they are cheap and have multiple storage uses. picture quality can approach high definition with the right players and upconverting tv sets. they have faster reaction/access times than blurays.



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15 Mar 2013, 7:33 pm

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), printed magazines...

Not everyone got a tablet.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Www
Can be read when you need info. (And solid state drives at around 60GB are pretty cheap now)

reading ANYTHING online [using a pc] is an uncomfortable and under-ergonomic PITA. tablets are far more comfortable and booklike but are still too damned expensive for most working-class types. so magazines will stay around to serve the hoi polloi.



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15 Mar 2013, 7:35 pm

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Terrestrial television is a debatable one. Some critics say that digital terrestrial television was developed primarily to appease older people who preferred the look of a yagi to a satellite dish.


Television has no right to exist! The internet can deliver pretty much any show you wanna watch, without some moron TV planner deciding for you what to watch. The concept of force fed entertainment has to DIE.

all these tech elitists are getting me down. :hmph: not everybody lives in the cities where high-speed internet infrastructure enables superhigh-bit internet service for web-based tv service.



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15 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm

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What technology do you think should be extinct but it stubbornly refuses to die?

Some examples I can think of are RS-232; Internet Explorer 6; and training wheels for bikes.


RS-232 is very usefull if you are hacking with hardware (microcontroller) it's very simple to use, don't need complicated code. You can rx/tx data with less than 10 assembly lines. Simple, clean and easy to implement.

The 80x86 architechture is what I think should be extinct but it stubbornly refuses to die. It's a 8080 patched to run in 16 bits ( 8086) patched to work in 32 bits (80386) patched to run in 64 bits, etc. Resulting in an assymetric (erratic)instructionset and an unpleasant memory model. Add to this an unwise initial MMX design patched to repair those mistakes, etc. This is the most ugly instructionset I ever worked with. And I worked with many.


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15 Mar 2013, 8:02 pm

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Terrestrial television is a debatable one. Some critics say that digital terrestrial television was developed primarily to appease older people who preferred the look of a yagi to a satellite dish.


Television has no right to exist! The internet can deliver pretty much any show you wanna watch, without some moron TV planner deciding for you what to watch. The concept of force fed entertainment has to DIE.

all these tech elitists are getting me down. :hmph: not everybody lives in the cities where high-speed internet infrastructure enables superhigh-bit internet service for web-based tv service.


I find the opposite sort of happening. TV is getting worse and worse as on demand/netflix/internet is taking over, as there's less competition. I find it a neat medium, just the lack of variety is what gets me. Like I like Sky.fm and Di.FM Android apps on my phone, and use them to listen to music in my car. It's the radio, just online. With a bunch of stations of music I find enjoyable. I use it so I can discover new artists and things I like. Like I like Russian pop music. Sky.FM and Di.FM both came out with Russian channels. I'm not Rusisan, I have no clue how to find Russian music, so this has been a bit of a Godsend to me.

And my issue with TV and radio is there's no particular reason FOR the lack of variety really. Just the FCC is really restrictive, along with royalty/copyright laws. Also, I believe terrestrial TV broadcasts are fantastic. The new ATSC television standard is almost borderline miraculous in it's power. I really like it. Theoretically with ATSC, you can simulcast like a hundred channels per frequency used. That's sweet.

I think personally the forced ATSC switch was actually a lot to do with cable and satellite companies. ATSC had legitimate potential to just make cable and satellite be obsolete for television. However, for people to adopt it without the government forcing people, it'd need programming people would wanna watch. I know ATSC has some cool secondary channels on each channel. Like FOX has a network entirely of old programming on ATSC. Speaking of radio, too, HD radio is the same way. FM radio started out this way, too. As a "premium" but free band. FM used to have full albums on it, for example. As programming got better, more people bought FM, and it overtook AM. However, the government spent a gazillion dollars for the ATSC switch to be forced to happen, and since it was forced to happen, new programming didn't have to be added to try to get people to buy the new standard. Like if ATSC got popular, Fox, for example, could very very easily just simulcast, say, Fox News, Fox Business, and all it's affiliates over it's Fox station terrestrially, and then people wouldn't have to pay the cable companies to watch Fox's other networks. This might happen regardless of the government forcing the switch, too, as maybe TV producers might get fed up with cable companies and just do terrestrial broadcasting like I'm describing, as it'd not cost them anymore money to do really, whereas with the old standard you'd need to broadcast a new frequency for a new channel.

Also, I LOVE HD Radio. My area, the country station has a commercial free classic country station, oldies station has a commercial free 1950s and 60s only station, pop station has a station specifically for dance music/techno, commercial free. It's nice technology. And it's FREE.



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15 Mar 2013, 8:05 pm

finally another fan of HD radio! :) wish there were more HD AM. but being able to listen to "coast to coast" on HD-FM in crystal-clear sound is a revelation. :o



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15 Mar 2013, 8:07 pm

I love satellite radio but it's WAY too expensive to justify it.

It's on my list of things to buy if I win the lottery though... 8)



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15 Mar 2013, 8:12 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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Terrestrial television is a debatable one. Some critics say that digital terrestrial television was developed primarily to appease older people who preferred the look of a yagi to a satellite dish.


Television has no right to exist! The internet can deliver pretty much any show you wanna watch, without some moron TV planner deciding for you what to watch. The concept of force fed entertainment has to DIE.

all these tech elitists are getting me down. :hmph: not everybody lives in the cities where high-speed internet infrastructure enables superhigh-bit internet service for web-based tv service.


True high-speed internet is not aviable every where and it's not free. You can receive TV without paying every month a suscribtion to some provider (with a good Yagi). If you are poor it's good thing.


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