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Edenthiel
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05 Nov 2015, 10:09 pm

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http://www.gwern.net/Black-market%20arrests
for your consideration...pls scroll

Thanks. I still wonder though, if they were caught in the 'usual' manner of an investigation involving law enforcement using tor to pose as a buyer, that sort of thing...or whether said law enforcement was actually cracking (or backdooring) and simply gathered enough evidence then swooped in for arrests. I guess my doubt stems from the difficulty so many law enforcement agencies would have keeping it a secret that the packets were not in fact secure.


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06 Nov 2015, 10:58 am

Edenthiel wrote:
slave wrote:
http://www.gwern.net/Black-market%20arrests
for your consideration...pls scroll

Thanks. I still wonder though, if they were caught in the 'usual' manner of an investigation involving law enforcement using tor to pose as a buyer, that sort of thing...or whether said law enforcement was actually cracking (or backdooring) and simply gathered enough evidence then swooped in for arrests. I guess my doubt stems from the difficulty so many law enforcement agencies would have keeping it a secret that the packets were not in fact secure.


i regret that my knowledge is insufficient to answer your valid query.
they did have their online aliases, drugs purchased and where but idk how they acquired that info



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06 Nov 2015, 12:55 pm

slave wrote:
Edenthiel wrote:
slave wrote:
http://www.gwern.net/Black-market%20arrests
for your consideration...pls scroll

Thanks. I still wonder though, if they were caught in the 'usual' manner of an investigation involving law enforcement using tor to pose as a buyer, that sort of thing...or whether said law enforcement was actually cracking (or backdooring) and simply gathered enough evidence then swooped in for arrests. I guess my doubt stems from the difficulty so many law enforcement agencies would have keeping it a secret that the packets were not in fact secure.


i regret that my knowledge is insufficient to answer your valid query.
they did have their online aliases, drugs purchased and where but idk how they acquired that info


Thank you. Either way, people should assume that TOR is not currently inherently secure. And that's actually a good thing - from my point of view - in that it defines what would need to be done to encrypt + end point protect all traffic. Yes, bad people will do bad things; they have always done so. That they do bad things IMO is not sufficient for everyone else to have to give up their privacy as the bad guys can be caught in other ways (such as the aforementioned sting operations done " the old fashioned way" by posing as a potential connection of some sort). Tapping into private communications (IMO) is a short cut for law enforcement that punishes everyone. Might not seem like much here in America and similar nations, but not everyone is so lucky...


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