"don't buy Windows Vista - Get Ubuntu for free"

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28 Apr 2007, 6:51 pm

What the HECK is up with those names? :lol:



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28 Apr 2007, 7:14 pm

OK, now I've installed Ubuntu. I've also easily installed the NVIDIA drivers, and got the desktop effects running. Vista FTL!!


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29 Apr 2007, 12:14 pm

Well, I wanted to have a RAID 0 array as my system disk in Ubuntu. Not going to happen without computer science degree. :x

In everything I read you have to install linux in order to set up the raid array but I want to install linux on the raid array. Wait, does not compute. :?


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29 Apr 2007, 3:49 pm

NeoPlatonist wrote:
Well, I wanted to have a RAID 0 array as my system disk in Ubuntu. Not going to happen without computer science degree. :x

In everything I read you have to install linux in order to set up the raid array but I want to install linux on the raid array. Wait, does not compute. :?


I think you're mixing up two things here. Do you have a BIOS that handles RAID 0 arrays? I don't think so.

Somewhere down the line, your BIOS is going to have to start up something that has a RAID 0 driver in it. So, you could just have a non-raid partition for "/boot". Build your kernel with RAID 0 and that's it. The rest can be RAID 0.

I'm not certain, but you may even be able to go one better. "Grub" is rather smart. A quick Google for just "grub raid" (ant attack?) got me a link to http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID, where it seems that maybe Grub doesn't do RAID 0 straight off. It said that you need the boot stuff on a RAID 1.


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29 Apr 2007, 5:10 pm

My BIOS does support RAID 1 or 0 and the Windows XP pro installer detects it just fine. It's annoyances like these that make Linux so irritating for people who are somewhat interested in switching.


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13 May 2007, 12:51 pm

my friend matt he loves linux!! i want linux but i cant boot it...:(



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13 May 2007, 1:38 pm

Check your BIOS settings, and make sure your CD/DVD drive comes before your hard drive in the boot priority settings.


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14 May 2007, 2:57 am

My Grandson just went to linex and through the faimly grape vine sent word he loves it. In my old days I loved to create problems, just so I could fix them. Those days are long gone. I like plug and play I want to punch the button and it works. That isn't to say I don't mind downloading stuff from the net and try it out. I don't mind a hassle here and there. This machine is dual core, 2 7900 evga cards sig series, blah blah blah. I have problems tapping the power with XP, big time, just getting the dual core with XP's "fix" is bull s**t. I want 64 bit and won't invest in pro,because I know I'm going to switch, fairly soon. I'm ready to go another route, vista smells bad to me. I do play games and if Linex isn't going to do the job right, I feel like it's just delagating this machine to what it now, I might as well have a 386 chip. So, I worry. What I need to find is a site that compares the 2 operating systems, I do not want to mess with dual boot ups. I have 3 systems in the house and I want to keep them tied togther in sharing. So anyway what I'm really asking is there a spot I can get this stuff looked at, do a non biased compare? I love ccleaner, I love to do an occasion reg cleaning, disk defrag, compression and I are an addiction. I actually miss the old win defrag, I could and did stare that the little bule boxes for long periods of time, lol, because it took long periods of time. My needs for an office set up just aren't there, might get a little more into pictures but don't really need all that photo shop has in it either. really concerned about drivers though.

I did an upgrade on the old system and will probably stay with xp till they stop supporting it, maybe, depends on what this linex looks like. The game I like plays fine on it and this one the damn cards give me heat warnings. And if you come back and till me it's on my end I'll go into rant mode, everybodys systems don't go to hell at one time when they issue a patch for the game. But yeah I should get some better cooling on them. looking at some Zalmans, but want something that actually vents the air out. But that's just me looking for something they don't make for what I need it for. Full tower have varible fans when I crank everything up sounds like a freakin jet.

I don't know what the green onion test is, but I bought the parts and had it put togther. The builders were courios so they did the benchmarks, it hit 12k+. I think it could go better then that, if I can get the operating system more to it's level. yeah well this is the only machine I've ever owned that was somewhat current and I wanted just one of those before I head out.

Ok so that turned into a ramble. Is there such a site for seeing what linex does vs windows?


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14 May 2007, 3:45 am

Graelwyn wrote:
Considering getting this... it is also meant to be pretty immune to viruses from what I hear ?


In about 1971, Unix was set up with regular user accounts which were distinct from the administrative ("root") account. As a result, normal users could do everything they normally needed to, but could not change system binaries or configuration files. As a result, no normal user's actions can infect any other user's files, making viruses a non-issue. Linux, created in 1991, uses the same system.

In about 1982, Microsoft purchased DOS from a programmer in Seattle. It had no user accounts; if you could touch the keyboard, you were the administrator. Any user could alter system binaries at will. Soon after, viruses became widespread. This remained the Microsoft way for a very long time.

Windows NT, which was based on different code than DOS/Windows 95/98/ME, allowed non-administrative accounts. Windows XP (2001) was the first version based on NT which was widely accepted as a platform for home users. Unfortunately, XP made user accounts administrative by default, and many programs refused to run correctly without administrative privileges, so almost all user accounts remained administrator accounts.

This has changed somewhat with Vista. After 25 years, Microsoft has finally taken a step towards achieving the same level of virus-resistance as Unix and Linux. Give them another several years, and they may well have the problem solved.

Until then, a tested multi-user operating system like Unix or Linux will be quite a bit safer. I've used them since 1988 without any virus protection, on several hundred networked machines, and never gotten a virus. Writing an email or browser borne virus for an operating system which separates user and administrator accounts is not really feasible, so it just doesn't happen.