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20 May 2009, 1:52 pm

I stick to my belief that you should not be able to copyright anything that you can duplicate so easily. While I do buy much of my music and software, I consider this donating, not purchasing. Especially with software that uses DRM, as I cannot even resell such software. (Which for the record DRM only effects sales negatively as it's more likely to increase piracy than prevent it.) Not to mention there is no penalty for pirating any type of media. You won't get caught unless you report yourself practically.


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20 May 2009, 1:58 pm

Arr! They be stealin' their stuff while I gots to buy it for meself! I'll make 'em walk the plank!



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20 May 2009, 3:12 pm

I live off what I produce, and a vast part of what I produce is copyrighted, so I have a lot of respect for intellectual property. I try to use Open Source and Public Domain stuff as much as possible.

that being said, I do download a LOT of music. but I also buy a lot of music and go to a lot of concerts. I just like to have a good listen of the stuff before I spend the 15 bucks on it :P


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20 May 2009, 3:21 pm

Generally, I have no issues with 'borrowed' software, I occaisionally use it myself. Many people from large software vendors,(including Oracle CEO Larry Ellison) really don't care about end users 'borrowing' products that they otherwise wouldn't be able to afford. Their main concern is with corporations/governments who can afford multiple copies/licences for their software not following through and installing single copies on numorous machines or networks.


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20 May 2009, 5:09 pm

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It's also a good way of sticking it to the man. I'm against Capitalism in general really.


It's good to be against monopolism (extreme capitalism) but these days being against small-time capitalism just doesn't work.

One of the problems that purely communist countries found was that because everything was state owned, there was no incentive (other than not being shot by the government).

eg: If I work really, really hard on the farm, I bring in 100% of the crop. The government takes it and gives me some bread, meat etc. If I work less hard on the farm and bring in only 30% of the crop, I get the same. Why try when you don't have to? Why try hard when everyone else around you isn't?



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20 May 2009, 6:15 pm

It's piracy to download something. But if you download a product and not pay, that must mean you have stolen it. All that's important is the developers get their money, as long as they have that, you can turn that pirated copy into a legit version.

I believe in a try before you buy. I mean, that's what relationships are for. You have everything there. But a marriage just means you are committed and happy with "the product"

I read somewhere that NoCD cracks/Hacks are illegal in the US. I love them as by the time I have found the disc to what I want to use, the disc is damaged, I take ages to find it, the code needs re-entering. On top of all that, I can preserve the original disc without making a backup. But developers are denying that ability with stuff like SecuROM. Which means you would HAVE to download a noCD fix. Makes me glad that patches can include the ability to no longer require the CD and boot quicker...

I say this as some pirated software needs the original disc and sometimes include a file to make it work.

I don't mind demo's but sometimes the demo can be too short to get a feel of it completely.

I support piracy for the fact that people create a CD workaround so I don't have to mess about. But against it in the way that the company create something great and to support them too. It's a double edged sword for software.

Someone I know had a go at me for breaking the law (driving offences) and they went out and bought some videos that were bad copies. I saw a video in DVD format being played and the colour was terrible, it was all whitewashed. I was glad I watched it at the cinema. Pirating videos is not a double edged sword, it's very clear I feel



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21 May 2009, 8:25 am

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Pirating software doesn't bother me. Probably has something to do with my inability to see it as/like physical property...


I feel the same way, although I do not use pirated software since I often feel that I can find alternatives. There's extremely much software which is available for download for free and 100% legal.

Sometimes I do buy software, but this is very, very seldom because of my economy. If I find that software holds good quality I want to support the developers and buying their product or helping out with bug testing is a good way of helping out. I definitely prefer open source alternatives to commercial software.

I never say that pirating software is okay, although I as many others have a past where some of my classmates thought that I was stupid when I actually bought a software product instead of pirating it. Those were the days, now there's so much software so I don't care to bother pirating. Feels more like an lazy attitude not to investigate what is out there.


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21 May 2009, 8:39 am

I like noCD fixes too. It's so stupid having to insert a disc just to run a program. Since noCD's are so readily availabe, it proves that anti-piracy measures only serve to annoy legitimate users.



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21 May 2009, 4:55 pm

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I like noCD fixes too. It's so stupid having to insert a disc just to run a program. Since noCD's are so readily availabe, it proves that anti-piracy measures only serve to annoy legitimate users.


What really really peeves me....

Those DVDs that start with the warnings, no skip adverts, no-skip anti-piracy trailer then 4 no-skip trailers for the film.
So you get halfway through watching it and have a problem with a scratched or dirty disc (happens all the time if you hire films). You take it out and clean it then have to spend the next 20 minutes trying to get back to where you were in the first place.

and you think.... you know, a pirated disc wouldn't have all that crap on it.



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27 May 2009, 10:40 pm

I don't believe it's stealing, and believe in paying when something really delivers, so if someone really did do something good, I reward them for it. This means a system based on good content, instead of one based on greed/hype.



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01 Jun 2009, 3:59 am

I don't care. Microsoft is a crappy ripoff and Linux is legal and fast and FREE.
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01 Jun 2009, 9:27 am

until the program prices become more reasonable, I'll pirate them. Almost 900 fuc**ng bucks for a program??? No wonder so many students are so deeply in debt. And then you got some fool suggesting crap like gimp which isn't near as good as CS4.



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01 Jun 2009, 11:22 am

Asmodeus wrote:
I don't believe it's stealing, and believe in paying when something really delivers, so if someone really did do something good, I reward them for it. This means a system based on good content, instead of one based on greed/hype.

Wait, so you mean you pay for stuff if it's good? So that means that you don't actually use pirated software on a day-to-day basis, you just pirate to try it out and then buy the real thing if it turns out to be worthwhile?


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01 Jun 2009, 12:38 pm

Most companies will offer a 'demo' version of a program, if you want to try it out. Usually the catch is it puts the companie's logo all over your output (Vue Pioneer), runs for a limited period of time (3ds Max), or you can't save your work, import things, etc.

If you want to try them out, you can, but that's about it. Now sometimes you can find 'orphanware' (I think that's what it's called), of very old versions of software.

Gimp - well, it's free. If you can't afford Photoshop, then, them's the terms ya gotta deal with.



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01 Jun 2009, 5:39 pm

digger1 wrote:
until the program prices become more reasonable, I'll pirate them. Almost 900 fuc**ng bucks for a program??? No wonder so many students are so deeply in debt. And then you got some fool suggesting crap like gimp which isn't near as good as CS4.


To be honest, I'd be interested in seeing what the GIMP community thinks of your artwork. :P
I'm willing to bet that pretty much everything you do is possible in GIMP.



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01 Jun 2009, 8:25 pm

BelindatheNobody wrote:
Pirating software doesn't bother me. Probably has something to do with my inability to see it as/like physical property...

This.


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