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09 Mar 2010, 5:53 am

I had to be dragged screaming, from lilo, to using grub. However, at the end of the day, having to remember to run lilo whenever any of the images had changed... and usually forgetting... made me finally give in... and admit that grub was better.


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09 Mar 2010, 6:53 am

I will watch more closely while doing a re-install and be careful about picking GRUB or Lilo or whatever. My only real issue has to do with Linux recording, posting or identifying itself or whatever or anything it does only on its own partition where I can later go get it ... and I think it is because of Win7's hidden boot partition that Linux does not even know there is any other system on my machine ... and that scares me a bit since Linux might then think it has free reign and access everywhere! Again, the date and time got messed up both in Mint and Win7 when Linux did not boot a couple of days ago, and that indicates to me that I need a tough wall between Windows and Mint.


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09 Mar 2010, 7:47 pm

Grub 2 has been problematic with triple boot OSX systems, that is about all.


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10 Mar 2010, 12:19 am

Fuzzy wrote:
Grub 2 has been problematic with triple boot OSX systems, that is about all.


I really appreciate the info from each of you, and I will definitely watch for GRUB this next time ... probably tomorrow evening.

I do not have EasyBCD within reach at the moment, but I think it had at least four different choice in its Linux category.


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11 Mar 2010, 3:31 pm

leejosepho wrote:
CloudWalker wrote:
On the accounts that the shortcut isn't working:
1. Right click on the shortcut file and select properties. What does the shortcut page shows. It could be drive letter difference, or if you can't access that, a permission issue again.
2. If you double click directly on the .exe, does it run? If not, it could be the permissions of the .exe itself.
3. Does the .exe supports limited user environment? It won't have permission to write to the system directory or the program files directory (in this case somewhere in G:). So if it does, it may not run.


What we are dealing with here is the executable file that runs "BookShelf" from Disk2 in Office 95, and keep in mind that Disk2 does not get installed -- it simply sits in/on the drive waiting to be invoked. If I double-click on BookShelf's .exe, it all runs just as it should, and a shortcut to it also works fine until copied to "All Users" or a specific one of the limited user accounts. I will go back and re-read your posts to again look at the matters of permissions and how to properly copy-and-paste shortcuts between accounts, but I also believe there is something additional going on here ...


Update:

I first want you to know I am dealing with a legitimate copy of Office '95 legitimately, and with that said ...

I have discovered a little more here.

Somewhere I read something about older stuff needing to be in a FAT partition in order to work properly, so I have made a FAT32 partition available (even if not really necessary). Then in XP, I have made a "Send to Desktop" shortcut for the .exe file for "BookShelf" ... and now here is what I have discovered:

After responding to a box asking for the location of the BookShelf "disk" (now on the drive), that shortcut works fine from the Desktop (in the specific account) where it was first sent. But after using Windows Explorer to simply copy that working shortcut to the Docs-and-Sets Desktop for "All Users", I still had to go into each account and click on that shortcut and respond to the same box asking for a location in order for "BookShelf" to be found and to work from each of the other accounts.

Question: Do you happen to know why one shortcut in a common-to-all location needs to be directed six times in order to work for five regular accounts and "Guest"?

I am trying to "see inside" a bit here.


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11 Mar 2010, 7:42 pm

leejosepho wrote:
date-and-time were messed up in Linux as well as in Windows 7 (I later discovered)

Likely due to time zone. Windows assumes the CMOS clock is on local time while the default for linux is UTC.
To change linux to match windows' behavior, edit:
/etc/adjtime
and change UTC to local

leejosepho wrote:
I will watch more closely while doing a re-install and be careful about picking GRUB or Lilo or whatever.

I haven't used Mint before but I will be very surprised if any distro still default to lilo. If there's a choice between grub and grub2 though, you may want to stick with grub.

leejosepho wrote:
My only real issue has to do with Linux recording, posting or identifying itself or whatever or anything it does only on its own partition where I can later go get it ... and I think it is because of Win7's hidden boot partition that Linux does not even know there is any other system on my machine ... and that scares me a bit since Linux might then think it has free reign and access everywhere!

Windows 7's hidden WinRE partition is used for recovery only. It's not used in normal booting. Unless you deleted it with programs that have trouble with the unusual format, that's not likely the problem. oth, if you relied on EasyBCD but choose the wrong bootloader, then the entries it made may not be usuful.

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Question: Do you happen to know why one shortcut in a common-to-all location needs to be directed six times in order to work for five regular accounts and "Guest"?

I guess that dialog is from Bookshelf itself. It probably stores the CD drive letter in the registry and will display that prompt if that entry is missing. That will explain why it asked once for every account.



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12 Mar 2010, 7:27 am

CloudWalker wrote:
Windows 7's hidden WinRE partition is used for recovery only. It's not used in normal booting. Unless you deleted it with programs that have trouble with the unusual format, that's not likely the problem. oth, if you relied on EasyBCD but choose the wrong bootloader, then the entries it made may not be useful.


EasyBCD simply added a selection in my multi-boot options, but then I later had to use it twice to get that option removed for now. I hope to give this all another try over the next couple of days, and this time around I will pay more attention to what I am doing! Most problems I have with computers are ones I cause myself, and sometimes I will do something a little carelessly just to see whether a given program was written well enough to either catch me or even correct an error. In this case, I was meaning to be careful but was nevertheless affected by my own lack of experience and really knowing what needed to be done.

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leejosepho wrote:
Question: Do you happen to know why one shortcut in a common-to-all location needs to be directed six times in order to work for five regular accounts and "Guest"?

I guess that dialog is from Bookshelf itself. It probably stores the CD drive letter in the registry and will display that prompt if that entry is missing. That will explain why it asked once for every account.


That makes sense, and I thank you! I slept much better last night.


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