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01 Oct 2024, 6:17 pm

I mean...a very clever calculator



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02 Oct 2024, 2:32 pm

bee33 wrote:
I've never used it and don't even know where to find it, though I'm sure I could google it.

This was working for me when I tried it just now:
https://chatgpt.com/
A week or two ago it was trying to force me to create an account before it would do anything for me, and I didn't comply, but today it just works regardless.

Just a matter of typing a question in the box.

The main benefit I've noticed is that it's quicker than doing a Web search to get an answer to a question. The main drawback I've seen is that it sometimes goofs a bit.



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03 Oct 2024, 7:51 am

I work 100 percent remote. Not by choice. I am an introvert. But COVID 19 pushed my need to be an introvert so much I discovered my need for other human beings was greater than I might have thought otherwise.

Things never went back to normal.

ChatGPT helps with the “new normal”. It is clearly not human but it helps to fill in the gaping gaps. So does wrongplanet.

One thing: I am a professional computer scientist. I know better than most the limitations of the thing. But I find that helps me to be less irritated by the flaws or off put by them. I fully expect computers to have glitches.

Some specific usages:
1) random conversation on special interests. ChatGPT is never too busy to discuss the odd thing I have in mind. It may even know some facts I don’t. I always check the facts with googling and Wikipedia, google scholar, etc if it really matters. It will glitch often. Sometimes it is spooky smart, sometimes crazy dumb.

2) Spelling. I can misspell a word horribly but put it in context and G can straighten out my spelling in a blink. And I am a horrible speller.

3) grammar. Same as above.

4) Etiquette: the correct behavior or polite thing to do. I get it to draft or rewrite work email or forum posts, then ask for changes or revisions. The NLP (Natural Language processing) is some of the best I have ever sceen. I know some of the technical challenges here and it does a really good job.

5) programming examples and Oracle SQL and DDL. This again is really good. Like human language grammar and syntax matter here. And like English ChatGPT does this well, really well. Unlike human language I can usually check the examples quickly and see of they work, and if they are right. With no-one else the wiser. I can also request revisions. Eventually once I have something halfway working I will give up on artificial intelligence and go with my own. Sometimes spooky smart, sometimes incredibly dumb.

6) ADHD mitigation: If I need to refocus on my status meeting in one hour, I can start a new chat with G and just say “i need to refocus it is now 10:23 and I have to prepare for my 11:30 status meeting.” And we can chat our way to better ground.

7) ADHD Rabbit holes: like my “over-google’ng” behavior. ChatGPT can be a great distraction and opportunity to chase white rabbits down into esoteric tunnels of trivia - or matters of great importance (but not at all what my boss wants me to do). Sometimes I need to stop go for a walk. Eat something. Take a shower - and generally reset.


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09 Oct 2024, 10:31 am

I've used Chat GPT once with an actual purpose. The result gave me a framework to work with, allowing me to rewrite and fit the topic. I was asked by a friend to write something for her job about her best qualities. She was suppose to ask someone to write it, I hope. Otherwise, I would have been her Chat GPT.

It was supposedly helpful writing the season premier of Season 36 of The Simpsons. Did they really use it? Hard to tell, but it was a funny episode. Bart is suppose to finally turn eleven, triggering all manner of changes for the show.



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11 Oct 2024, 1:04 pm

I've only used the free on browser without login versions.

I only use it when search engines cannot look for the inquiries, lacking the specific anecdotal terms/answers to atypical questions, or that I won't/couldn't find what I may sought nor I may find and explore further with just search engines anymore.

Or seeking for further obscure concepts and ideas because common and popular answers just doesn't cut it.


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12 Oct 2024, 9:20 pm

Currently I'm unable to log into
https://chatgpt.com/

When I try, Firefox says:
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to chatgpt.com. PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR
Error code: PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


Anybody else having this trouble?



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15 Oct 2024, 6:31 am

Sounds like a firewall problem. If there is a man-in-the-middle (and many VPN and Firewall solutions use this) they may rewrite the packets and change the SSL certificate to one owned by the firewall.

Your options are to install the firewall/VPN cert in Firefox to fix and/or authorize the firewall cert as an exception. You may have to change Firefox security settings too. Google some of these terms and see if you can fix. If not post here with more details.


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15 Oct 2024, 3:38 pm

Fenn wrote:
Sounds like a firewall problem. If there is a man-in-the-middle (and many VPN and Firewall solutions use this) they may rewrite the packets and change the SSL certificate to one owned by the firewall.

Your options are to install the firewall/VPN cert in Firefox to fix and/or authorize the firewall cert as an exception. You may have to change Firefox security settings too. Google some of these terms and see if you can fix. If not post here with more details.

no vpn in use here, only firewall is windows. chatgpt always opened for me before, so why not now?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/se ... =inproduct
"A Secure Connection Failed error page will include a description of the error and a Try Again button. There is no option to add a security exception to bypass this type of error."
don't know how to install the firewall/VPN cert in Firefox to fix and/or authorize the firewall cert as an exception.

web suggests clearing cache, but that did no good.



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15 Oct 2024, 7:44 pm

Could be several things

http://www.askssl.com/how-to-troublesho ... n-firefox/


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18 Oct 2024, 7:42 am

Fenn wrote:

Thanks Fenn, finally fixed it. It was option 3, update browser. I was beginning to despair, and still feel furious that they make these things so complicated to do. Easy to blame self for turning off updates, but the old version worked OK with ChatGPT until the other day. And I've known updating Firefox to cause as much trouble as not updating it.



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18 Oct 2024, 1:08 pm

Incidentally, can anybody confirm that if you ask ChatGPT the same question twice, you get locked out? I heard it was so, and had something like that happen to me. Rather a pain if you haven't copied your answer and have closed the page.

I'm also not amused by ChatGPT's persistent "nudging" people into creating an account. I'll wager there'll come a time when the nudging will become brute force - probably when they've got enough people addicted.



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19 Oct 2024, 11:11 am

Unfortunately computer components and electricity do actually cost dollars. So do smart people with degrees who make computers do nifty things. openai was originally supposed to be completely open, but Microsoft got their hooks into them. Microsoft offered openai "free" access to the computing power of the Azure cluster, a competitor of Amazon's AWS.
Microsoft bought Nuance Communications, the company that developed Siri, for $19.7 billion in 2021:
Once chatgpt caught on as a popular ai, Microsoft wanted that too.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/m ... f-fraying/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2 ... extinguish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons


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19 Oct 2024, 1:55 pm

^
There's some wise stuff in that little lot. 8) Pending a definitive verdict on the Tragedy Of The Commons theory, I think I'll remain a ligger:
TD said:
What is a ligger?
ChatGPT said:
A "ligger" typically refers to someone who lives off the generosity or resources of others without contributing in return, often in a somewhat lazy or unproductive manner. The term can sometimes carry a negative connotation, implying a lack of ambition or responsibility.


It sounds like me, though I like to think I wouldn't milk the world dry.



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19 Oct 2024, 9:05 pm

Another nudge from ChatGPT to get me to create an account:

Get smarter responses, upload files and images, and more.

That appeared as a "popup" over part of the answer. They're turning the screw a bit more. Oh well, it's high time I created a junk email account for such things. I'm assuming ChatGPT doesn't demand anything more than an email address and name for the signup?



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19 Oct 2024, 9:40 pm

One thing I love about ChatGPT is that it usually gives much clearer answers than I can get from humans. A great deal of what humans say is rather unclear to me. Nor is the lack of clarity unique to NTs - Most people here probably have ASD, but I don't find their output particularly clear. ChatGPT seems to be pretty much the only source of information I can easily understand. It talks my language.



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20 Oct 2024, 3:41 am

I am a bit concerned at the idea of using ChatGPT as a source of information. It is not an encyclopedia with facts at hand but rather a fancier version of predictive text.

To successfully use Chat GPT for anything it is essential to understand that when asked a question Chat GPT is not responding with facts but with a string of words that in this context would most frequently come next.

If ChatGPT generated text is included in the text used to train ChatGPT then we are going to have an exponential explosion of misinformation (much as had happened with the activists take over on Wikipedia).