15 Mar 2009, 6:01 pm
khelben1979 wrote:
Buying new computer hardware just to be able to run Vista is pointless if you ask me.
Buying new computer hardware just to be able to run Ubuntu is pointless if you ask me.
Since people think they need to go out and buy new hardware to run vista, lets talk about the alternatives.
When I put Ubuntu on my other computer I had to buy differnt hardware to get things up and going, because linux does dont work with all hardware. I still cant listen to sound on it because I dont want to buy a new motherboard just for that. Had to buy a network card just to get the thing online because my MB network didnt have drivers for it, well you can see where I am going with this......
When Linux users start complaining about microsoft products and there hardware requirments, it make me laugh. You cant just install linux on any computer and expect everything to work, if that happens then you are very lucky. It is the same way with MS or any OS, you might have to change some hardware. That alone turns lots of people off of linux, just because they cant get everything to work with it. Heck I still havent found all the driver for Ubuntu, then installing them makes me want to bang my head against the wall!! ! If linux was as easy to configure as vista.....
15 Mar 2009, 10:50 pm
roadracer wrote:
Buying new computer hardware just to be able to run Ubuntu is pointless if you ask me.
Hm. I will buy a new computer when this one suffers from major hardware failures, and I will likely run Ubuntu or some other Linux distro on it.
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When I put Ubuntu on my other computer I had to buy differnt hardware to get things up and going, because linux does dont work with all hardware.
Not all, but it works with most. It's given me less trouble than Vista has.
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When Linux users start complaining about microsoft products and there hardware requirments, it make me laugh. You cant just install linux on any computer and expect everything to work, if that happens then you are very lucky.
Almost any modern computer works quite well with Ubuntu, and anything that doesn't work out of the box can typically be made to work.
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Heck I still havent found all the driver for Ubuntu, then installing them makes me want to bang my head against the wall!! ! If linux was as easy to configure as vista.....
I still haven't found all the drivers for Vista, and something so simple as configuring my printer was a nightmare... I think this boils down to familiarity. You know how to deal with Vista's failures, I know how to deal with Ubuntu's failures, and neither of us really feels like investing that much effort in learning how to compensate for another OS's shortcomings. Use what you like, I'll use what I'll like. But I'll also point out that mine is better than yours.
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16 Mar 2009, 8:20 am
roadracer wrote:
khelben1979 wrote:
Buying new computer hardware just to be able to run Vista is pointless if you ask me.
Buying new computer hardware just to be able to run Ubuntu is pointless if you ask me.
Since people think they need to go out and buy new hardware to run vista, lets talk about the alternatives.
When I put Ubuntu on my other computer I had to buy differnt hardware to get things up and going, because linux does dont work with all hardware. I still cant listen to sound on it because I dont want to buy a new motherboard just for that. Had to buy a network card just to get the thing online because my MB network didnt have drivers for it, well you can see where I am going with this......
When Linux users start complaining about microsoft products and there hardware requirments, it make me laugh. You cant just install linux on any computer and expect everything to work, if that happens then you are very lucky. It is the same way with MS or any OS, you might have to change some hardware. That alone turns lots of people off of linux, just because they cant get everything to work with it. Heck I still havent found all the driver for Ubuntu, then installing them makes me want to bang my head against the wall!! ! If linux was as easy to configure as vista.....
Its worked perfectly on my five computers, my brothers two computers, and my sisters as well.
Solution: For windows and GNU/linux alike: use well developed and tested hardware. A good asus board, nvidia graphics cards, something other than a broadcom wireless card.
99% of your problem comes from these. Mice, keyboards, dvd/cdroms, hard drives all work right out of the box.
For ubuntu install restricted extras. If you are running 64 bit, then install ia32 libraries. Coupled with wine and a 9800 GT graphics card, I have eve online running with all settings maxed.
16 Mar 2009, 3:28 pm
Fuzzy wrote:
Its worked perfectly on my five computers, my brothers two computers, and my sisters as well.
Solution: For windows and GNU/linux alike: use well developed and tested hardware. A good asus board, nvidia graphics cards, something other than a broadcom wireless card.
99% of your problem comes from these. Mice, keyboards, dvd/cdroms, hard drives all work right out of the box.
For ubuntu install restricted extras. If you are running 64 bit, then install ia32 libraries. Coupled with wine and a 9800 GT graphics card, I have eve online running with all settings maxed.
Yeah, it probably will work every time on a older computer, but if you go out and buy the latest hardware, build yourself the computer, then pop linux on it, chances are that the drivers wont be released for your hardware for a couple years. Hardware manufactures always release drivers for windows right away, then when they have time to get around to it, maybe they will make the linux drivers.
My problem with it has never been a lack of understanding or knowing what I am doing, and yes I spend time searching the net for drivers. When you have the everyday Dell or Gateway, with average hardware, you have a better chance of everything working with Linux. I build my computers to run windows, then when I build a new one, I put linux on the old one. I guess my original point was to say that linux is not anything special, it is not any better then MS, as far as having problems, every OS has its flaws. People talk about linux like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The way I view it is that every OS is a tool, that has its differnt uses, and strengths.
Orwell, your right, yours is better than mine, but mine is faster
16 Mar 2009, 7:14 pm
roadracer wrote:
I guess my original point was to say that linux is not anything special, it is not any better then MS, as far as having problems, every OS has its flaws. People talk about linux like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The way I view it is that every OS is a tool, that has its differnt uses, and strengths.
I'd say Linux is special in how it can so easily be customized to my preferences. As a former Mac user, I loved the sudden explosion of choice I had. But you are correct, there really isn't anything all that special. For what I do, any OS will suffice. For me, it comes down to performance, stability, ease of use, and my subjective UI preferences. For me, Linux wins in those categories.
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Orwell, your right, yours is better than mine, but mine is faster
Pfft. If I boot up in LXDE, I'll kill you in performance no matter how much RAM you give Vista. And LXDE by now has almost all the same GUI functionality as XP.
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