PC vs. MAC

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Someone who got a bad experience with a Mac.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120212022914/http://byuu.org/articles/apple

Pretty much any component you can find in a Mac, you can find in a Dell, IBM or HP computer as well; the notion that "Apple hardware is garbage" therefore falls flat. Even the OS is pretty much FreeBSD with a proprietary GUI. Just for the sake of being the Devil's advocate: A Mac is usually more robust than an "average" laptop, and one of the reason why you pay extra for it, is that the chassis is made by aluminium extrusion rather than aluminium casting. I don't see why laptops have to last that long when they're outdated after three years, though...

You have to use the WayBackMachine to go back five years to find someone who has had a bad experience with a Mac? That says it all.

Anyways the guy is an idiot. First Apple doesn't make RAM or hard drives. Thats third party hardware that has nothing to do with Apple. And how inconsiderate of Apple to include an adaptor. They should know that some fool will buy their own adaptor.

Last edited by Max000 on 03 Feb 2014, 4:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

My MacBook is five years old and not outdated, in my opinion. I'm pretty sure I can do anything with it, that I could do with a brand new Mac. It doesn't have that fancy aluminum casting, but it still does everything I need to do.

My 11 year old PowerMac G5 is only outdated in that it is no longer supported. But it still runs older software just as good as the day I got it, and will continue probably for the rest of my life. I know other people who still use Macs that are 10 plus years old. Every Mac I have ever owned had a useful live well longer then three years.

Just because your laptop is outdated in three years, doesn't mean everybody's is.

I didn't search for it, as I already knew that article, which is two years old, not five. Also, this guy is not a idiot, he programmed the most accurate snes emulator there is, so he know a lot about computers. If Apple don't make RAM or hard drives (The article do mention that the hard drive have been made by Toshiba.) then they should install good third party hardware, which they didn't do in this case. The cooling was inadequate and failed the system, another bad point for Apple. Overall this show that Apple products are no better that competitor products and are overpriced.

What games can a five year old Mac run? A 2008/2009 laptop will struggle to run advanced graphical applications (eg. 3DS Max 2014) and open source programming tools (Eclipse IDE and MySQL are good examples) as well. The fact that office tools and web browsers still run on a computer, is due to the fact that FreeBSD and Windows NT is optimized to run on legacy hardware.

Sorry you are right. It is from two years ago. He was talking about the computer he bought in 2008. But he is still an idiot. Anyone who buys an adaptor and then blames the manufacture for including one in the package, is an idiot.

Thats like buying tires for a car, then buying the car, then blaming the manufacture for including tires with the car. Damn Toyota. Selling me a car with tires on it. I already had the tires. I just wanted the car. Thats the last time I'm buying a Toyota.

If you can't see how totally ridicules that is, I don't know what to say.

He had no valid argument against Apple in that post.

I dono. Plants vs. Zombies, stuff like that. More games then I need. If I was a gamer I probably wouldn't use any laptop, Mac or PC.

As a company Apple is greedy and totalitarian, and the BS 'branding' they do to try and convince consumers that they aren't reveals their utter contempt for their own customers.

Lets tear this one apart, shall we?



Sorry, but if I go to Best Buy to buy a blu-ray player, know that it needs an HDMI cable, buy the cable as well, and then find out that the player comes with an HDMI cable - I'm going to either write it off as a loss and keep the cable around for when I need it, or I'll return it. Complaining that the store sold you something you asked for but didn't need, and are too lazy to rectify is nothing other than your own damn fault.



Drives die sometimes. That's a fact of life. Where were your backups?



Or, you know, you could have taken it to an Apple store or sent it back to the manufacturer and they would have fixed it for you for free.

And oh by-the-way, the new mini's open from the bottom without any screws, or any other tools.



Yeah, Hitachi drives are crap - that's why Apple doesn't use them anymore. That's about the only valid point in this whole diatribe.



Again, the machine was obviously still in warranty, so I don't really give a crap if you decided to spend money on a new drive when you didn't have to.



Uhh, the EFI on the system enables the eject button on the keyboard to work. 10 minutes worth of googling could have gotten you the answer.



Hynix is one of 3 direct manufacturers of DRAM - their chips are found in nearly everything from Macbooks, to IBM and HP servers, to multi-million dollar network appliances. I would hardly call them "generic s**t".



So, that would mean if you bought the 3-year warranty, both of your issues would have been fixed, for free, by Apple - but you decided that you wanted to fix it yourself, and ended up breaking it. And now it's Apple's fault?

If I decide to fix the brakes in my car myself and the rear axle falls out, is that Ford's fault?

Since Apple abandoned risc architecture and embraced intel... there is no difference (in fact windows can be run on a newer mac without emulation)...

From a purely power standpoint, the mac os is anemic (when dealing with video editing) you can see a distinct flaw in their multithreading code... When running high end applications that tax the power of the processors, it becomes terribly obvious that they only take advantage of about half of their power.

As such... Since I need the power in my business... PC all the way

You know about 20 years ago. Commodore had a computer called the Amiga and for it time. It was the most powerful personal computer on the market. It blew PC and Mac right out of the water.

Yup... and when the company went into bankruptcy, they were sub par on processing power, both for graphics and sound...

That was more than 20 years ago. The reason why the Amiga 500 originally could produce better graphics than a contemporary x86 PC, was that the games were only coded for the specific hardware found in the Amiga 500. The very same thing is what enables a PS3 to outperform computers from 2006. With the rise of the PS1, consoles could keep up with PCs (the gap between a computer and a SNES at the dawn of the 16 bit generation, was much larger), and thus, the market for the Amiga diminished.

And was produced up til 1994... 20 years ago...

As for the coding... yes and no... when the amiga came out... it's video and sound capabilities were far beyond that of anything else on the market... coded for or no

It's sound was roughly on par with the first generation Soundblatser, so yes, the sound was more advanced than that of most computers at the time. In terms of raw CPU power, it wasn't more powerful than a 286 CPU, though. Most x86 computers had VGA in the late 1980s, but it wasn't used in games before the early 1990s. By 1991, upper-mid-range computers had surpased it in both graphics and sound.

If you look at the Amiga version of Test Drive 1, I'll admit that it was very advanced when it hit the shelves, though.