Ubuntu to take a bite out of one kilobyte! Thieves!

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28 Mar 2010, 12:24 pm

Apparently people are confused that 1KB means 1024 bytes rather then 1000 bytes.
So, in the next OS they are changing the terminology to mean 1000 bytes = 1KB.

Thieves! I want my extra 24 bytes back!

Manufacturers have been playing marketing tricks with this for years.
CD's advertised with 700 MB really have 700,000,000 bytes.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1451238/Ubuntu-Will-Switch-To-Base-10-File-Size-Units-In-Future-Release


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28 Mar 2010, 12:35 pm

Apple already did this in Snow Leopard.


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28 Mar 2010, 12:47 pm

Right. Its just an attempt to rectify the system with the numbers reported by hdd manufacturers.

Like if you fueled up your car and the pump said 80 liters, but the gauge in your car only showed 75... you'd be choked.

Since nobody seems able to get the hard drive manufacturers to stop fudging the numbers... we might as well use their system of counting.


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28 Mar 2010, 1:04 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Right. Its just an attempt to rectify the system with the numbers reported by hdd manufacturers.

Like if you fueled up your car and the pump said 80 liters, but the gauge in your car only showed 75... you'd be choked.

Since nobody seems able to get the hard drive manufacturers to stop fudging the numbers... we might as well use their system of counting.

I hate marketers.


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28 Mar 2010, 1:13 pm

Whaaatt?!... You can't just take away those 24 bytes!....
There's a reason behind all this, are they forgetting?

Now I'll have to convert, when I really need to calculate?!
At least those with old drives will be happier now for having """more diskspace""".



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28 Mar 2010, 3:26 pm

TheSpecialKid wrote:
Whaaatt?!... You can't just take away those 24 bytes!....
There's a reason behind all this, are they forgetting?

Now I'll have to convert, when I really need to calculate?!
At least those with old drives will be happier now for having """more diskspace""".


That is true. Memory blocks are square and addressed in binary.
If there are "missing" bytes, there is something hidden in them.
Something is definitely wrong with flash memory that reports
LESS memory than labeled. NEVER should there be a byte less
than labeled, even with this math as an excuse, you either get
what it says on the label, OR MORE!
The MORE is a real significant bonus on large memories.
Even 128KB x 1024 > 131,000. Thus 128 should NEVER report as 127,999 or less.
It can only possibly be 128000 or 131072.



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28 Mar 2010, 3:34 pm

ValMikeSmith wrote:
Even 128KB x 1024 > 131,000. Thus 128 should NEVER report as 127,999 or less. It can only possibly be 128000 or 131072.


Ah! But you forgot to include byte zero, so your memory is 131071 bytes (plus zero). :wink: :lol:

(Zero based controls are a real pain in the proverbial when programming. Zero based byte arrays, list controls etc but with other controls one based. I get more bugs in my programs due to forgetting to adjust locations by one byte where necessary.)


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21 Sep 2014, 5:07 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Apparently people are confused that 1KB means 1024 bytes rather then 1000 bytes.
So, in the next OS they are changing the terminology to mean 1000 bytes = 1KB.

Thieves! I want my extra 24 bytes back!

Manufacturers have been playing marketing tricks with this for years.
CD's advertised with 700 MB really have 700,000,000 bytes.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1451238/Ubuntu-Will-Switch-To-Base-10-File-Size-Units-In-Future-Release


Traditionally, a kilobyte is 2^10 bytes, a megabyte is 2^20 bytes, a gigabyte is 2^30 bytes, and a terabyte is 2^40 bytes.



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23 Sep 2014, 1:02 am

TallyMan wrote:
Apparently people are confused that 1KB means 1024 bytes rather then 1000 bytes.
So, in the next OS they are changing the terminology to mean 1000 bytes = 1KB.

Thieves! I want my extra 24 bytes back!

Manufacturers have been playing marketing tricks with this for years.
CD's advertised with 700 MB really have 700,000,000 bytes.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1451238/Ubuntu-Will-Switch-To-Base-10-File-Size-Units-In-Future-Release


eg of shrinkflation??....well, maybe not :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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23 Sep 2014, 10:25 am

TallyMan wrote:
Apparently people are confused that 1KB means 1024 bytes rather then 1000 bytes.
So, in the next OS they are changing the terminology to mean 1000 bytes = 1KB.

Thieves! I want my extra 24 bytes back!

Manufacturers have been playing marketing tricks with this for years.
CD's advertised with 700 MB really have 700,000,000 bytes.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1451238/Ubuntu-Will-Switch-To-Base-10-File-Size-Units-In-Future-Release
it's becoming industry standard nowadays. i guess NT's can't understand binary :lol: