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miserylovescompany
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03 Jun 2009, 6:31 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 89434.html

They say they did it as youtube are persistantly deleting music, which is a cause I am also against. I'm sorry but I think porn day was hilarious and really stuck it back at the 'rights' culture which has seen music wiped from the internet by the GB.

4chan is renound for being a crazy ass site, but once you learn their lingo, they're a very cool bunch. Their /mu/ board is always buzzing with the COOL music, mainly metal. If it's on 4chan and passed their strict criteria for cool, then it is probably cool, lol. If you don't like the other boards, don't use um!

A DDoS would have been better, but youtube's server capacity and bandwidth are simply too huge to flood. Porn day was a stand against what many see is an unjust restriction of free media.

They hid porn in clips that were widely searched, I know, I found some! lol.



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03 Jun 2009, 7:18 am

I know of 4chan's previous antics, and have usually found them to be humorous. This goes way over the line though. This was a highly inappropriate way to carry out their protest, and if any of the people get caught, I won't feel sorry for them if they're charged with sexual misconduct or some other misdemeanor. Posting pornographic links on a widely used public forum and giving the videos labels that children are going to find appealing like 'Hannah Montana' or 'The Jonas Brothers' isn't funny at all. It's akin to someone walking around in public handing out bags of pornographic magazines to children, saying they're candy.

In Australia our government is trialling a nationwide mandatory filter on internet content that will block all http and p2p traffic containing content that would normally be refused classification if it were in other media. Pranks like this only add fuel to the arguments of proponents of internet censorship and will not have any effect other than to anger parents and increase support of censorship.

And I say pranks deliberately here - the people stumbling onto this content are not going to be seeing the presence of porn in the clips as a protest. They will only see it as a dumb prank by a bunch of juvenile delinquents, hiding behind the anonymity of being online. The whole reason for the protest gets lost completely when you start targeting children with porn.

Lastly, Youtube/Google is a private enterprise and free to do whatever they want with their website. If they want to delete content at the request of record companies, then that's their business. If 4chan want to protest, then they should do it in a more appropriate manner and one that doesn't potentially expose children to pornography.



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03 Jun 2009, 9:21 am

Youtube was never intended to be 'for children'. I don't beleive kids under a certain age should even be on the internet without being closely supervised. If your kid is watching porn on ANY site then it's the parent's fault.

You can't police & restrict the entire internet just because some parents & schools insist on letting kids log on ad hoc.



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03 Jun 2009, 9:37 am

miserylovescompany wrote:
A DDoS would have been better, but youtube's server capacity and bandwidth are simply too huge to flood.

Bull, Google/Youtube go down often enough just under normal use. A DDoS attack from some of the bigger spambot networks would take them down.

And yeah, this was an incredibly immature prank.


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03 Jun 2009, 10:05 am

miserylovescompany wrote:
Youtube was never intended to be 'for children'. I don't beleive kids under a certain age should even be on the internet without being closely supervised. If your kid is watching porn on ANY site then it's the parent's fault.


How is it the parents fault if a child logs on and plays videos of the Jonas Brothers, who do a large amount of their promotion through online channels, before the clip switches to hardcore pornography thirty seconds in? It doesn't matter if the parents are actively supervising them or not in this situation. Once it's flashed up on the screen the damage is done.

Don't justify the actions of these irresponsible net hooligans, and realise they are only acting out of a desire to gain internet infamy and maintain illegal access to copyrighted material, not out of any noble cause. Nobody is restricting freedom of media here; nobody is forcing Google to do anything. Google is simply following the law by removing copyrighted content that shouldn't be there in the first place.



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03 Jun 2009, 11:20 am

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
miserylovescompany wrote:
Youtube was never intended to be 'for children'. I don't beleive kids under a certain age should even be on the internet without being closely supervised. If your kid is watching porn on ANY site then it's the parent's fault.


How is it the parents fault


Well, take your parental responsibility seriously or GTFO the internet. Do you let your children play in a hazmat/construction area too?

Like he said earlier:
miserylovescompany wrote:
Youtube was never intended to be 'for children'. I don't beleive kids under a certain age should even be on the internet without being closely supervised. If your kid is watching porn on ANY site then it's the parent's fault.


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03 Jun 2009, 11:59 am

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I don't beleive kids under a certain age should even be on the internet without being closely supervised. If your kid is watching porn on ANY site then it's the parent's fault.


Emotions aside, this unilateral statement is simply incorrect on a basic level.

According to the article, if you read it, this solely targeted children's videos. It did so in such a way that even a supervising parent, standing directly at the child's side, would be unable to anticipate. Also, when Barney is suddenly interrputed by twenty seconds of "Hole-y Holly's Anal Animal Adventures", said parent will need to overcome shock, get the mouse from the child, and try to close the window while not being distracted by Holly, their child's reaction, or what is happening to a very unfortunate chicken.

For the parent to avoid this, they would have to allow no surfing on the net whatsoever. This is not what you are recommending which exhibits a basic misunderstanding of the issue and the flow of your own argument.


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03 Jun 2009, 12:05 pm

LOL that's hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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03 Jun 2009, 2:22 pm

ViperaAspis wrote:
For the parent to avoid this, they would have to allow no surfing on the net whatsoever.


There, you finally got it.


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03 Jun 2009, 2:26 pm

I don't buy the basic assumption you all make, that seeing pornography is bad for children.


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03 Jun 2009, 2:31 pm

Ed, do you have young grandchildren? Would you show them hard-core porn?


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03 Jun 2009, 2:42 pm

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I don't buy the basic assumption you all make, that seeing pornography is bad for children.


Well, I can certainly tell you it was bad for the chicken.


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03 Jun 2009, 2:50 pm

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I don't buy the basic assumption you all make, that seeing pornography is bad for children.

Either way, it is the parents decision wether or not their children can look at pornography and people should know what they are accessing when on the internet. I think this prank was incredibly stupid.



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03 Jun 2009, 2:57 pm

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Ed, do you have young grandchildren? Would you show them hard-core porn?


I don't, and I wouldn't...

But i don't think that they will be harmed by seing pornography. In fact some studies have suggested that people who were exposed to pornography as children were less likely to have problems with it as adults.

This is one of those ideas that people have become hysterical about. It is time to take another look at the basic assumption.



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03 Jun 2009, 4:20 pm

I saw tons of stuff I shouldn't have thanks to my school's lack of internet safety lol. Never killed or perverted me.



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03 Jun 2009, 4:34 pm

...besides, they create their own pornography these days... it's called "sexting" :lol: