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15 Aug 2009, 10:04 pm

I ordered the parts for a new computer recently, included in my order was windows vista 64 bit. Included in the package was windows vista 32 bit. Will a 32 bit OS support 4gb of ram, if not will my 32 bit license work with a 64 bit disk, if not either will anyone point me to a vista 64-bit keygen that isn't a virus.


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16 Aug 2009, 12:04 pm

It should work, but that's the operative word. You won't get all the features and benefits you'd get from a 64-bit Operating system, but 32-bit Operating systems can only address 4 gig, so if you include more, it won't be seen. Is it too late to send back the 32-bit version? Have you cracked the shrink wrap? (do they still even send things in shrink wrap?...;)



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16 Aug 2009, 8:45 pm

The site I ordered form won't do returns on operating systems, and what features will I be losing?


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16 Aug 2009, 9:16 pm

When I had Vista 32-bit, it only saw 3 out of my 4 gigs of RAM. It has allegedly been patched to see up to four gigs now, but I wouldn't count on it. If you have a 64-bit processor and you're using a 32-bit OS, you're losing out on potential performance gains and wasting the power of your hardware.


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16 Aug 2009, 9:33 pm

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If you have a 64-bit processor and you're using a 32-bit OS, you're losing out on potential performance gains and wasting the power of your hardware.
and I am also wasting a hundred bucks on vista 64 bit. I only use windows for gaming, and have never been short in RAM before on my old computer with 2gb of RAM while gaming, Just in processor and Video Memory. Also will a 32 bit OS support 3 cores?


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16 Aug 2009, 9:41 pm

nodice1996 wrote:
Also will a 32 bit OS support 3 cores?


Never heard of a 3 core computer. But Yes, 32 bit runs a quad core just fine on my brothers computer.


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17 Aug 2009, 11:28 pm

The RAM and the tri-core are working well, but the integrated LAN port doesn't work, and since it wants a driver for an unidentified pci network card from an old HP I can't get it on the net. Any advice? I can't get to steam, so it's not even useful for gaming.


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18 Aug 2009, 1:03 pm

I got the onboard working, I installed the windows xp drivers first time around.


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18 Aug 2009, 2:35 pm

tri-core? I've never heard of it wither. 2,4, 8 (and supposedly some really specific ones beyond that).

If you bought the OS from the vendor, did they have a 'no returns' policy you acknowledged before downloading? If so, there's not much that can be done. However, if not, then you might contact the Better Business Bureau in their jurisdiction. You can either file a complaint, or look up their 'rep' (other complaints) on that specific business (provided it's in the US).



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19 Aug 2009, 8:11 am

pakled wrote:
tri-core? I've never heard of it wither. 2,4, 8 (and supposedly some really specific ones beyond that).

If you bought the OS from the vendor, did they have a 'no returns' policy you acknowledged before downloading? If so, there's not much that can be done. However, if not, then you might contact the Better Business Bureau in their jurisdiction. You can either file a complaint, or look up their 'rep' (other complaints) on that specific business (provided it's in the US).


Pakled, it isnt so straightforward. For more than a decade it has been established that microsoft will not issue refunds for unused licences. Contact them and they will say "go to the vendor". Contact the vendor and they tell you to talk to MS.

The problem is that it is the responsibility of the vendor to return your purchase price. However, microsoft will not refund your vendor. It would be a death sentence for any specific vendor to sink that loss, as anyone that didnt want to use microsoft(us linux geeks) would purchase from them. Seeing how MS applies mostly unavoidable pressure to OEMs to forcibly include windows in assembled computers, They would very quickly start taking huge losses from returns.

Here is a company that does ship without windows. I intend to buy my next laptop from them. http://system76.com/index.php


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19 Aug 2009, 10:26 am

..and they wonder why they have such a 'rep'. Yeah, I'm not surprised...;)

I once saw the following, inside the shrink-wrap of a copy of Word Perfect (back in the day)

Do not open until you have read the enclosed agreement..;)



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19 Aug 2009, 2:05 pm

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21 Aug 2009, 12:18 pm

If you use 64 bit Vista you can use 8 gigabyte or more of system ram. From what i hear vista needs more ram. Sounds like you ordered the 64 bit and they gave you both 32 and 64. So get more ram and use 64 bit with the provided key for 64 bit that is my advice.



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21 Aug 2009, 1:41 pm

Windows XP x64 supports 128GB RAM
Windows Vista home suports 8GB RAM
Windows Ultimate supports 128GB RAM
The x64 architecture can address 16EB of RAM. b,KB, MB, GB, TB, PB, EB I think MS put in limitations so when you reach them, you have to upgrade.
There are some 32bit OSes that can reach beyond that 4GB boundary by using a memory swapping technique.

If you were sent a 32bit version where you ordered a 64bit, they are in the wrong for messing up your order. From my version of Vista, I can enter the code whenever I like and use any version I like. The key tells it which version it is. 32, 64, home, ultimate, business, etc. Ask them to send you a 64bit key