A New Clue to Explain Existence (More matter than antimatter

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18 May 2010, 12:33 pm

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Physicists at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory are reporting that they have discovered a new clue that could help unravel one of the biggest mysteries of cosmology: why the universe is composed of matter and not its evil-twin opposite, antimatter. If confirmed, the finding portends fundamental discoveries at the new Large Hadron Collider outside Geneva, as well as a possible explanation for our own existence.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/science/space/18cosmos.html


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18 May 2010, 1:05 pm

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Physicists at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory are reporting that they have discovered a new clue that could help unravel one of the biggest mysteries of cosmology: why the universe is composed of matter and not its evil-twin opposite, antimatter. If confirmed, the finding portends fundamental discoveries at the new Large Hadron Collider outside Geneva, as well as a possible explanation for our own existence.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/science/space/18cosmos.html


I'll have to check it out. Zoot was saying something about that in the car on Sunday. It sounds interesting.



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18 May 2010, 3:05 pm

By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!



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18 May 2010, 3:22 pm

Inventor wrote:
By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!


Indeed we are here. But the fact we are here is not necessarily the reason we are here.

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19 May 2010, 7:08 am

So, let me see.

Basically, this theory is that the Big Bang produced a heck of a lot of stuff, but a vast amount annihilated itself and what was left over made what we now see, right?

It'd explain a lot of the empty space.



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19 May 2010, 3:09 pm

Inventor wrote:
By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!


There were no devices, 100 years ago that were based on quantum processes, such as tunneling. Quantum physics has complete re-made technology since Bell Lab introduced transistors in 1948.

Your assertions indicate you are ignorant of physics. What else are you ignorant of?

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19 May 2010, 3:11 pm

What I am missing in the story is an explanation of the logice behind the mechanism. Does this mean our symmetries are all wrong?


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19 May 2010, 3:59 pm

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What I am missing in the story is an explanation of the logice behind the mechanism. Does this mean our symmetries are all wrong?


As I understand it there is a subtle difference in the symmetry between matter and anti-matter.


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19 May 2010, 4:48 pm

They found certain types of particles which fluctuate between matter/anti-matter states rapidly (Neutral B Mesons) tend to go back to being matter at a SLIGHTLY faster rate than the anti-matter transition, which could explain why instead of there being 2,000,000,000 matter particles and 2,000,000,000 anti-matter particles that annihilated into a mush of energetic but useless photons... we had 2,000,000,001 matter particles, leaving that 1 in 2 billion left over to form literally everything we see and are made of today.


Not even going to touch the "physics has produced nothing" stuff... that's gotta be deliberate.



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19 May 2010, 4:57 pm

See article on CPT violations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPT_symmetry

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20 May 2010, 8:39 am

ruveyn wrote:
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By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!


There were no devices, 100 years ago that were based on quantum processes, such as tunneling. Quantum physics has complete re-made technology since Bell Lab introduced transistors in 1948.

Your assertions indicate you are ignorant of physics. What else are you ignorant of?

ruveyn



I seem to know that transistors were not the product of Quantum Physics, It was the discovery that the same crystal used in early radio tuning , became an amplifer when a current was run across at right angles to the signal. This charged crystal is the base of all development since.

The principal had been used in tubes, plate energy amplifiers, with high power and heat, it only took fifty years, two alligator clips, and a battery, to show the same result with less power and heat.

Bell Labs was the 1948 phone company.

What next, a claim that Physics invented fire?



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20 May 2010, 10:08 am

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What next, a claim that Physics invented fire?


No, it was a chemical engineer :lol: . But I think the first prize should go to a mechanical eng who invented the wheel.



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20 May 2010, 10:20 am

I'll bet Aspies invented Fire and the wheel. :wink:



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20 May 2010, 1:10 pm

Inventor wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Inventor wrote:
By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!


There were no devices, 100 years ago that were based on quantum processes, such as tunneling. Quantum physics has complete re-made technology since Bell Lab introduced transistors in 1948.

Your assertions indicate you are ignorant of physics. What else are you ignorant of?

ruveyn



I seem to know that transistors were not the product of Quantum Physics, It was the discovery that the same crystal used in early radio tuning , became an amplifer when a current was run across at right angles to the signal. This charged crystal is the base of all development since.

The principal had been used in tubes, plate energy amplifiers, with high power and heat, it only took fifty years, two alligator clips, and a battery, to show the same result with less power and heat.

Bell Labs was the 1948 phone company.

What next, a claim that Physics invented fire?


There is laser too, you know the stuff that read CD/DVD/Blu-Ray discs and that cat love to play with.
The GPS satellites use relativity theory about time and space to keep their precisions.
PET scans are using the gamma ray emited from electron/positron anihilations to read your brain. (The positrons come from the desintegration of a radioactive element.)
Nuclear energy; it's working, no doubt.


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20 May 2010, 3:16 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
Inventor wrote:
By the lucky foot of the Easter Bunny, what does it matter?

Physics has produced Zilch, a bunch of stories that can not be proven.

Our technology, coal, gas, electric, is the same as it was a hundred years ago.

How much are we paying for this "Search for God" ?

We are here because we are, it is today, always, deal with it!


There were no devices, 100 years ago that were based on quantum processes, such as tunneling. Quantum physics has complete re-made technology since Bell Lab introduced transistors in 1948.

Your assertions indicate you are ignorant of physics. What else are you ignorant of?

ruveyn



I seem to know that transistors were not the product of Quantum Physics, It was the discovery that the same crystal used in early radio tuning , became an amplifer when a current was run across at right angles to the signal. This charged crystal is the base of all development since.

The principal had been used in tubes, plate energy amplifiers, with high power and heat, it only took fifty years, two alligator clips, and a battery, to show the same result with less power and heat.

Bell Labs was the 1948 phone company.

What next, a claim that Physics invented fire?


Classical electrodynamics cannot explain how a transistor works. Period. Two of the team members that invented the FE Transistor at Bell Lab were quantum physicists. Without quantum theory we would not have practical working semi-conductors. Without semi-conductors we would not have the kind of high speed computers that consume very little power. Without relativity theory we would not have the GPS. Quantum theory and relativity theory revolutionized physics and eventually remade technology. Without these the world would still look like latter day Victorian England.

Your comments have indicated you have no grasp, whatsoever, of physics that was developed since 1900. You have not got a clue.

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20 May 2010, 8:28 pm

The speed of an electromagnetic field is a bit older than relativity theory.

GPS is modern Loran, for the distances involved, neither relitivty or quantum apply. It is just time and distance.

Physics claims the work of others, and has not produced.

It is babble with no proof. It has become a religion.