Gnome 3

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Well Gnome 3 is nearly upon us, just wondering what your thoughts are. I have used gnome-shell and find it Ok but the inability to change the alphabetical software list is nearly a deal breaker for me, not to mention the loss of Wobbly Windows.

It's still in development.
I prefer Enlightenment Desktop Environment in addition to Gnome. I sometimes use KDE but it's too slow for me.
What distro are you using by the way?

I use Debian, Linux Mint, Puppy, and Ubuntu
I've tried PC Linux OS but it didn't suit my tastes.

Not really It is scheduled for release in September, which suggests only tweaks and bug fixing.

"Release Team announced on July 29th that GNOME 3.0 will be released in March 2011" - http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone

Oh, they delayed it again? It was originally supposed to come out in March 2010.

If GNOME 3 actually uses that stupid "GNOME shell" that they were exhibiting, I'm switching to KDE.

I'd say switch to KDE or Xfce (what I use), GNOME is already contaminated with C# applications which can easily be replaced and on top of that, Novell dominates a third of their foundation board (including the director) and GNOME just signed a deal with freedom haters. de Icaza wants to code GNOME 4.0 fully in .NET. Only Novell operating systems like SUSE are safe from being sued if you use .NET.

REJECT IT!

I want my desktop to approximate a deterministic machine, doing the same thing each time I boot up or resume. The new feature creep is adding elements that I do not want to see, where notifier events from everything (sensors, audio streams, social networking) get piped everywhere, even re-writing menus and program functionality on the fly. I have lost all my vocabulary about finite state machines, but any machine capable of modifying its own code is untestable, and has unknown function.

Above all, I think that I am deeply unsuited to working with a lot of the features that people currently find cool and desirable, so I am waiting for the back-swing of the fashion pendulum (Gnome 4? Gnome 3-minus?) and will be testing KDE on my next install.

And the GNOME Office suite is basically refusing to fully implement open formats, instead focusing on "compatibility" with MS.

Is Xfce getting any better? Last I checked they still had no documentation on 4.6 whatsoever. It feels like an abandoned ghost project.

KDE still has its own problems because of using Qt (I use mostly GTK+ apps, and no there are not equivalent Qt programs out there). Xfce is mostly undocumented. LXDE is the next choice, assuming LXNM is working now.

Its a bloody shame as I am really comfortable with Mint 9, I can only hope Clem and the team do not move to gnome 3 until they have to.

I was just having a look at KDE4.4 on youtube and they were talking about Quinn, does this mean some of the compiz features I like are available on kde (namely open and close animations and wobbly windows) yes I know I am being shallow, but I really like them

The GNOME Shell is an optional feature of GNOME 3. There will be an easily accessible option to disable it.

Have you ever tried Enlightenment? They have been doing some really nice work with E17.
It's fast lightweight and looks much better in my opinion than Xfce.

Enlightenment never really agreed with me. I dunno, maybe I had it set up wrong or something.

Enlightenment was stupidly beautiful and blazingly fast, but some how, I just didnt bond with it.

I tend to use it with Xfce For some reason to me Xfce is just too dull looking.