Does any Tech aspies have any ideas to plug the oil spill?

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If so you can go to CNN and they will post your idea for everyone and bp to see.

If there are any people that can do it, I bet someone on this site would know how. I wouldn't cuz I am a creative but not mathmatical aspie.

good luck and godspeed

Jojo

here is the CNN link to post your solution

http://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories ... cId=444632

probably have to cut and paste to browser

Which is the correct meaning of the word "Spill?"

spill, "oops, I spilled some Coke on the counter, let me wipe it up with a towel"

spill "oh, my gawd! I have polluted the planet for generations to come, wiping out the enviroment, species and changing the DNA of every living creature forever!"

Just wondering when it changes from a 'spill' to ' total disaster', is all

I think we should try to plug the hole with the BP board of directors and throw the board of directors from other oil companies in their for good measure.

I think it would be a good idea for people to make suggestion on how to fix this, but before they do, they should have an understanding of basic physics, fluid dynamics, and deep sea environment. I'm not saying that people should have any kind fo degree but rather I'm saying people should have the correct information as to what they are dealing with. I would love for some fellow spectrumite come up with a solution that works.

The best bet is to drill a relief well and make sure that is capped.

ruveyn

Well, I'm the top of my class on the first two, and have a basic understanding of the third. The main problem I've had with BP's "solutions" is that they're all designed so they can immediately get back at the oil, instead of focusing on stopping the flow. The popular idea amongst my fellow grad students is to detonate a low-yield nuclear device near the leak (~5-10 kilotons) to collapse the hole and melt it shut. Yeah, it isn't good for the environment, but what's worse, all of the oil pouring out, or one small deep-sea blast? We could have stopped this leak a day or two after it happened, rather than waiting months to see each option that only had a slight chance of working fail.

DNForest....great idea!...you guys should post it on the cnn link. Also the use of nuclear is controversal thus will gain enough attention for the thick-heads to take notice

As far as BP execs...make sure they are melted in there too.

I say we make portable oil refineries and steal their oil.

Have you guys seen how deep that thing is? Check this graphic. Its gold for other reasons too.

Warning! Very long image! Large in the vertical sense!
http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infogra ... ench-0249/

Also, about nuking it shut, the sea bed there is soft and deep. You wouldnt have the right sort of compression on the drill pipe: you are more likely to sheer it off and then the mud would slump in. The crude would seep forever.

Didn't the Russians say they tried nuking oil wells five times and it only failed once? Only takes once really.

It worries me a bit that BPs solution to having drilled one deep well and failed is to drill two more. I'm glad I don't live in Louisiana.

Did the Rooskies try at at a depth of one mile under water?

ruveyn

Very carefully.

No nukes because the Gulf is mud geology, and the mud is full of Methane Hydrates. It would produce and ignite the largest gas bubble ever, blowing a big hole.

Even the relief well is dangerous. The idea is pump in mud, Specific Gravity of 2, but the water was nothing to blow out. Just like it blew out the top kill, it can blow out bottom kill. I figured several million pounds of force coming out of the pipe, and the mass in motion of over three miles of oil.

MxV=I, and I is a really big number.

The hope is that the mud is a brake that slowly slows the flow and lowers I, but just for starters it will double pressure in the casing.

For it to work the mud must replace the oil, and the oil is in motion. All of that force will be on the bottom of the mud where the relief well intersects.

It will not be a tight joint, they are drilling blind into a pipe miles down, cutting a hole in the casing that confines it.

Before the blowout the pressure of the non moving oil was confined by mud to the surface, now with a mile missing.

The dangers are, would 8,000 foot of mud stop it? it has to stop before it can be cemented.

Will the added presure of mud in the casing just split the casing? There are already reports of oil coming out of the sea bed around the casing.

Making holes in the casing leaves the area around it an open path to the surface. the hole is larger than the casing, all the way down.

I can be mudded, cemented, and have a blowout all around the pipe.

With nothing much holding it in place the whole casing can be spit out of the hole.

Outer casings are not used for production because the tools go up and down, bits and stem move about in the hole, and have huge mass. Casings get holes.

The production pipe was set, most likely 12" inside, and that is what the cement joint was trying to do, fill the space between the two pipes.

So if the casing is cut, mudded, cemented, there will still be a production pipe flowing. it reaches from the sea bed all the way down. Drilling through it, it will just drop, all your mud will be above, so it will still have an open path.

Mud has weight when it is sitting still, a solid tube of mud moving as fast as the oil will just flow up and out. To replace the oil it has to have more force, and that just where the oil will concentrate all of it's force. That just happens to be the place where the casing was cut to inject the mud.

This could get much worse.

Thanks, dude. I was just worried before...

This is alot more complex than I thought. Is there a way to relieve presure without relieving oil? Any ideas?