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11 Mar 2011, 10:41 pm

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12 Mar 2011, 12:06 am

Even though I'll admit to being totally ignorant on the subject, I think it's a fascinating idea.


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12 Mar 2011, 12:09 am

Quit anthropomorphizing the planet. It does not do anything intentionally.

Aside from that... what evidence do you have?


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12 Mar 2011, 4:55 am

or maybe were just building up to the main event in 2012 :!: 8O :!:



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12 Mar 2011, 8:59 am

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The earth is not a living organism so there is no "healing". What you are seeing is the action of tectonic plates in motion driven by convection caused by very high temperatures in the earth's core.

Your theory is nonsense from a scientific p.o.v.. Other than that, it is o.k.

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12 Mar 2011, 9:04 am

I'm not an expert on science but even I find this ridiculous. The Earth healing itself? That sounds like you and your hubbie have been watching too much of New Age movies.



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12 Mar 2011, 10:46 am

MCalavera wrote:
I'm not an expert on science but even I find this ridiculous. The Earth healing itself? That sounds like you and your hubbie have been watching too much of New Age movies.


Pretty much. Convection has no intention, the earth is not trying to restore itself to some "pure golden age" as the hippies would have it.


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12 Mar 2011, 3:11 pm

Your theory is like saying that "hurricanes are really the earth's atmosphere healing itsself".
A hurricane is a low pressure zone- a point where there is less air than normal- so in a sense it IS a "wound" in the atmosphere.

The highwinds are just the rest of atmosphere rushing in to fill the void- thus healing the wound. So in a real sense that would be a true statment-"that hurricanes are the atmosphere healing itsself". But all your doing is anthropomorphizing the obvious ( you still have to explian why the earth's atmosphere wounds itsself in the first place- is the earth into cutting?).

The future movements of the continents are already mapped out.
The continents are still moving apart.
But scientists say that at a future point they will stop-and they will go into reverse, and they will start to head back toward each other. ( I was under the impresson that the continents just keep moving in the same direction away from each other until they slammed into each other again on the other side of the planet- that America is fleeing europe but is destined to slam into east Asia- but no they actually stop and then reverse direction according to a discovery channel show I saw).

They will indeed merge together again into one continent, and then will break apart again after that.

But scientists say that this first stopping point is not due for another few tens of millions of years. And that the reverse journey back into one continent will take another 100 million years after that.

you're basically saying the same thing- but you're saying that the earth has jumped the gun on scientists and is just now fixing to put the continents into reverse. And that scientists somehow missed this. And you're giving a poetic anthropomorphic motive to earth to do this.

If the earth "decided" right now to 'recreate" Pangea - then North America would suddenly stop moving an inch a year westward,and would start moving the same speed eastward.
Ninety million years from now the east coast would slam into europe at the mid atlantic ridge in the middle of what is now the Atlantic Ocean. Thats ninety million years in the future. So - you're right- it wouldnt be in 'the next few years."


The continents have been breaking apart and coming back together since the planet was born.

There have been about fifteen different pangeas, and fifteen differnt eras of non-pangean seperate continents.

It goes in 250 million year cycles. Most of the fossil record was in the last one and a half cycles ( a break up, a coming together, and another break up).
So this last cycle is the only one that gets much attention.

But Pangea was itsself the result of seperate continents smashing together. So it was no more "original" a state than what we have now.

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Im not worried about 90 million years from now- but much sooner.
There does seem to be something going on thats quickening the pace of siesmic activety.


Im not a geologist but it does look like something big and very unpleasant is fixin to happen.

Maybe the magnetic poles are about to flip.

Or- maybe the Yellowstone Supervolcanoe is about to blow!

If its the latter-well-nice knowin' ya all!



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12 Mar 2011, 3:28 pm

Well, the Earth's plates will someday perhaps lead to a new super-continent. Is 'correcting itself'? No, definitely not. Before Pangaea, there was Gondwana, and probably others I can't remember atm. But suggesting that it will return to Pangaea is not possible. The plates are moving in such a way that the western coast of North America will collide with the East Coast of China. The new super continent, if it comes to be that this is the next configuration, will look nothing like Pangaea


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12 Mar 2011, 4:36 pm

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Well, the Earth's plates will someday perhaps lead to a new super-continent. Is 'correcting itself'? No, definitely not. Before Pangaea, there was Gondwana, and probably others I can't remember atm. But suggesting that it will return to Pangaea is not possible. The plates are moving in such a way that the western coast of North America will collide with the East Coast of China. The new super continent, if it comes to be that this is the next configuration, will look nothing like Pangaea


Good only exist in the human mind anyway. The Earth has no preferences.


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12 Mar 2011, 4:41 pm

Sh*t happens all by itself through the operation of purely physical natural processes. No intention, no "healing", just pure happenstance devoid of purpose and intelligence. Existence is just one damned thing after another.

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12 Mar 2011, 6:22 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Well, the Earth's plates will someday perhaps lead to a new super-continent. Is 'correcting itself'? No, definitely not. Before Pangaea, there was Gondwana, and probably others I can't remember atm. But suggesting that it will return to Pangaea is not possible. The plates are moving in such a way that the western coast of North America will collide with the East Coast of China. The new super continent, if it comes to be that this is the next configuration, will look nothing like Pangaea


It doesnt work that way. Thats what I thought- north america will run into asia thus cobbling together a new supercontininet. But north america will stop and reverse direction and will head east again and run back into europe -according to discover tv.

But either way its a cycle. continents break apart and lump back together.



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12 Mar 2011, 7:12 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Well, the Earth's plates will someday perhaps lead to a new super-continent. Is 'correcting itself'? No, definitely not. Before Pangaea, there was Gondwana, and probably others I can't remember atm. But suggesting that it will return to Pangaea is not possible. The plates are moving in such a way that the western coast of North America will collide with the East Coast of China. The new super continent, if it comes to be that this is the next configuration, will look nothing like Pangaea


It doesnt work that way. Thats what I thought- north america will run into asia thus cobbling together a new supercontininet. But north america will stop and reverse direction and will head east again and run back into europe -according to discover tv.

But either way its a cycle. continents break apart and lump back together.


Really? That's interesting. I don't know if one can say with any certainty what the next continental configuration will be. The direct tectonic interaction between the European & American plates isn't the only thing that affects that particular system. Interactions between other adjacent plates with either plate, and further on the interactions those adjacent plates are having with their neighbors. Many different variables at work, in addition to the effect that the interior mantle exerts pushing upwards


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12 Mar 2011, 7:33 pm

Although there certainly is no way that the Earth could be healing itself, there might be (emphasis on MIGHT) some negative feedback mechanisms to help prevent/mitigate global warming. By that, I mean it's not impossible. However, I don't know of any that we've found yet.. On the other hand, we have found far too many mechanisms that can send global warming into a positive feedback loop.



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12 Mar 2011, 8:14 pm

ugh i seriously hope the "heat pump" of the ocean deosnt get too wacked, would be a disaster.


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12 Mar 2011, 9:19 pm

AstroGeek wrote:
Although there certainly is no way that the Earth could be healing itself, there might be (emphasis on MIGHT) some negative feedback mechanisms to help prevent/mitigate global warming. By that, I mean it's not impossible. However, I don't know of any that we've found yet.. On the other hand, we have found far too many mechanisms that can send global warming into a positive feedback loop.


Negative feedback loops are a necessary but not sufficient condition for a system to be living. For example the thermostat/furnace arrangement is a negative feedback control loop but it is not a living system. The thermostat does not "heal" the coldness of the room, for example.

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