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27 Aug 2006, 11:17 pm

Hi
I posted a year or two ago asking what are the best programs to install to protect my pc.
Then people were saying:

ZoneAlarm firewall
AVG Free
Ad Aware SE Personal
Spybot Search & Destroy

Does anyone have any update on this or are those sufficient?
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28 Aug 2006, 6:02 am

I used to use ZoneAlarm when I used windows and a dial-up modem, then later a DSL modem, to access the internet, and it did a very good job, since then though I have switched to Linux and my network is firewalled at the router, I have installed AVG Free and AdAware SE personal on the 2 remaining windows based computers in the house, both programs do an exceptionally good job at looking for the things they are meant to look for.

I can safely recommend ZoneAlarm, AVG Free, and AdAware SE Personal, just a case of updating the programs as soon as an update is released and you will be covered against new threats



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29 Aug 2006, 6:22 am

Thanks Pikachu, but why don't you "safely recommend" Spybot?



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29 Aug 2006, 7:58 am

My computer is doing fine, but I just got new RAM for it which will be installed very shortly.


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29 Aug 2006, 9:16 pm

You should use Firefox for Web and Thunderbird for mail.

The best way is to learn how to deal with spyware.

I only got spywares once cause I tought that I was protected by an antispyware. That time I learned to don't trust antispywares. I got it while I was installing a crack.

Since that time I never use antispyware and I never got spyware again.

For fun I scan my computer every 2 months with Spy-Bot, Trendmicro and MS and they say that I don't have spy.

I use Avast for anti-virus and a router as a firewall.



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30 Aug 2006, 4:04 am

I've been visiting this site regularly.
http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm?s_cid=sah


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30 Aug 2006, 6:54 pm

Those programs are good but for a firewall the paid for ones have even more. For some very good user power I like a program called tiny personal firewall pro that cost 100 usd but is worth the cash. It does firewall, stops untrusted programs from running, you can see the ip address in and outgoing, it keeps windoze inline. I think of it as a good mcp program. You all most do not need a anti-virus program with this running. Most attacks and nasty bits of code now days need a user to be tricked into running a program or not checking the i agree stuff in some so called free program that say in leaglsee says they are putting some extra in. And most important keep those programs updated and yourself too new ways of tricking users pop up all most daily.


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31 Aug 2006, 11:25 am

psybot wrote:
Thanks Pikachu, but why don't you "safely recommend" Spybot?
I do now, i installed it a couple of days ago onto one of the remaining windows machines and it worked very well

at the time I wrote the reply I hadn't installed it or used it.

It would be worth me installing it on my fiancee's laptop at some point



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02 Sep 2006, 11:00 am

I use AVG anti virus, Zonealarm PRO, Spybot and Ad-aware pro, spyware blaster and firefox for browser since IE has lots of holes in it.



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02 Sep 2006, 5:02 pm

atxa wrote:
The best way is to learn how to deal with spyware.

I only got spywares once cause I tought that I was protected by an antispyware. That time I learned to don't trust antispywares. I got it while I was installing a crack.

Since that time I never use antispyware and I never got spyware again.

I use Avast for anti-virus and a router as a firewall.


Very interesting what you say about the spyware. Do you have any information or links to information about how to deal with spyware? I'm very interested now. Thank you.

Also, how would you differentiate adware and spyware?

And as well, would you recommend Avast over AVG?

Thanks



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02 Sep 2006, 11:01 pm

atxa wrote:
I only got spywares once cause I tought that I was protected by an antispyware. That time I learned to don't trust antispywares. I got it while I was installing a crack.


Sounds like you should have learned to not trust cracks or your source for them. Or that you were using something that billed itself as anti-spyware, but was actually quite the opposite.

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_ant ... m#products

psybot wrote:
Do you have any information or links to information about how to deal with spyware? I'm very interested now. Thank you.

Also, how would you differentiate adware and spyware?


http://forums.spywareinfo.com/

Adware and spyware are practically synonymous. Some adware programs, but very few, may just be ad-supported software and not incorporate spyware-like techniques or be malicous in any way. You're pretty much rolling the dice and trusting the program to be honest (again, most are not). Personally, I wouldn't take the chance.



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03 Sep 2006, 12:22 pm

overflow wrote:
atxa wrote:
I only got spywares once cause I tought that I was protected by an antispyware. That time I learned to don't trust antispywares. I got it while I was installing a crack.


Sounds like you should have learned to not trust cracks or your source for them. Or that you were using something that billed itself as anti-spyware, but was actually quite the opposite.


I can't talk too much about crack because it's not allowed here but the problem was how the web site asked you how to save the file. At that time I was using using Spyware Blaster who I thought it was a good protection ...

Now I use Ubuntu, I don't have to care about all those things anymore ...



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03 Sep 2006, 7:27 pm

overflow wrote:
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/


wicked site. ty overflow.



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03 Sep 2006, 7:39 pm

i don't suppose anyone has a site as good as http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ regarding viruses do they?
it's cool to be clean :D



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03 Sep 2006, 10:01 pm

You're welcome.

I really don't know of any sites like that for viruses, sorry.