free alternatives to Adobe Flash

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ptjman
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11 Aug 2011, 8:28 am

lately I've been thinking about learning programming in flash, but when i went on the adobe website, l learned it was $600 at it's cheapest.so is there any free alternatives to flash that has most of the features of flash and allows me to embed my own games in HTML code?

Tom_Kakes
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11 Aug 2011, 10:48 am

ptjman wrote:

There is the gnu flash plugin gnash but it doesn't come with an IDE. It's pretty much only any good at rendering buttons etc, playing some videos and also really only compatible with flash 7.

There is a flash IDE actually written in flash but I can't remember its name?

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11 Aug 2011, 8:03 pm

HTML 5

Tom_Kakes
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12 Aug 2011, 5:31 am

Just Google "free flash IDE"

First result:

http://www.flashdevelop.org/wikidocs/in ... =Main_Page

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12 Aug 2011, 5:35 am

Java?

MadnessMaddened
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13 Aug 2011, 5:40 am

mcg wrote:

HTML 5

+1. HTML5 is the way to go.

Tom_Kakes
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13 Aug 2011, 2:13 pm

Html5 and java do their respective tasks in a great way but are not replacements for Adobe flash, unfortunately there is no open (or closed) alternative.

I think he is looking for a development environment (ide) and I know Adobes is about that price.

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13 Aug 2011, 11:01 pm

Tom_Kakes wrote:

Html5 and java do their respective tasks in a great way but are not replacements for Adobe flash

Please elaborate.

The only reason that we have not seen the near complete exodus of Flash from the mainstream (of course there will be a niche market for a while) is Google's politics concerning video codecs.

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14 Aug 2011, 5:19 am

MadnessMaddened wrote:

Tom_Kakes wrote:

Html5 and java do their respective tasks in a great way but are not replacements for Adobe flash

Html5 is not an alternative to flash. While it can do some of the things flash can like rendering animations, buttons etc and decoding video. It can't do all the things flash can.

Html5 can also do many things that flash can't but just to clarify, they are two completely different toolsets ment to do their own tasks.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparis ... _and_Flash

Flash is not just a video player.

While html5 video is better on platforms other than windows because of the hardware accelerated open codecs it uses. The majority market share of Windows users won't notice much of a speed increase in playing html5 video over flash. This is because the Windows version of the flash plugin has good hardware acceleration of video as opposed to the Unix derivatives. Until this changes (as in less people use Windows) we won't see websites substantially adopting html5 over flash video.

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24 Aug 2011, 4:00 am

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28 Aug 2011, 11:00 am

Google for free dev env's. Also, what nat4200 said.

But Java can never replace Flash. HTML 5 and up might gradually take over, but I doubt it as SW/Flash has too much of a foothold.

I also worked with a few libraries for PHP that let you embed dynamic code that would compile Flash on the server on the fly. I don't remember what it was called, but it was very powerful to be able to do that.

Tom_Kakes
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28 Aug 2011, 3:31 pm

Koan wrote:

I also worked with a few libraries for PHP that let you embed dynamic code that would compile Flash on the server on the fly.

I don't remember what it was called, but it was very powerful to be able to do that.

Sounds interesting (and cool) but in what situation would that be better than precompiling. Is it just a matter of speed of deployment of code?

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30 Aug 2011, 11:19 pm

You want something like Flixel of Flashpunk,
Free, open source, AS3 based.

http://flixel.org/
http://flashpunk.net/

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