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09 Dec 2011, 3:50 pm

Are there any Aspies who have an obsession with Pripyat and Chernobyl?

I have reason to believe I was there in 1986 in another life.

Does this sound strange? I have been seeing these visions for the past few years and so far I have most of the story, but some people think I am crazy


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09 Dec 2011, 3:54 pm

Its in the wrong section.

I loved playing Chernobyl on Call of duty 4 though.


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09 Dec 2011, 4:05 pm

Have you ever had anything to do with scientology? They like reincarnation.

I read on an anti-scientology site an account by a former scientologist about a young child who believed that in a previous life he had drowned as a baby on the RMS Titanic. It might be true, but being a cynic I thought it might be more convincing if he hadn't chosen the most famous shipwreck of all time. Ask anyone to name a shipwreck and see what they say. There are other belief systems which feature reincarnation, scientology is just one I've taken a (curious but slightly cynical) interest in.

You're not crazy, just because you've experienced something I haven't. For all I know you might be right.

You know that there are tourist tours of Pripyat you can go on?



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09 Dec 2011, 4:16 pm

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Have you ever had anything to do with scientology? They like reincarnation.

I read on an anti-scientology site an account by a former scientologist about a young child who believed that in a previous life he had drowned as a baby on the RMS Titanic. It might be true, but being a cynic I thought it might be more convincing if he hadn't chosen the most famous shipwreck of all time. Ask anyone to name a shipwreck and see what they say. There are other belief systems which feature reincarnation, scientology is just one I've taken a (curious but slightly cynical) interest in.

You're not crazy, just because you've experienced something I haven't. For all I know you might be right.

You know that there are tourist tours of Pripyat you can go on?


I hate scientology they are evil! Of course Titanic comes up in my mind but I associate it with the movie. For me though what is strange is I can see things that I never knew existed there before. Without ever researching it but seeing things as they were before the evacuation.

The tour would be fun, but they don't like people going on a single tour and is better as a group.


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09 Dec 2011, 4:30 pm

Atomic rockets are more fun than stationary power plants.



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09 Dec 2011, 4:38 pm

I'd forgotten about the movie, but do now remember hearing "My Heart will Go On" as background music on a Dover to Calais ferry a few years ago and wondering if it was entirely appropriate. Scientologists aren't evil, but there have been heartbreaking accounts of abuse and one can only wonder whether or not they are entirely in the past.

If you could come up with facts which you had no other way of knowing, that would look convincing, but as the worst nuclear accident of all time, Chernobyl has been so widely covered by the media, it would be difficult to exclude the possibility of them getting into your subconscious mind during your present life.



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09 Dec 2011, 5:24 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt158138.html

I have an interest in Chernobyl because it's a big part of why energy took the direction it took. There was an accident. As with many relatively new industries, things go wrong and you don't know where the problems are at first. Now it is well understood that reactors must be designed to have a negative void coefficient (Chernobyl) and a means of handling the decay heat at shutdown (Fukushima).

Nevertheless, that doesn't mean we should abandon the benefits of nuclear power, but rather, learn from the mistakes and don't repeat them. Passenger jets used to crash a lot more often than they do now, but we still use them and they have become a lot safer.

When the first synthetic ammonia plant in Oppau, Germany exploded, hundreds of people died, but BASF got the plant up and running again soon afterward, and today, synthetic ammonia and its derivatives are crucial for feeding the people. About 1/2 of all the nitrogen atoms in your body were run through the Haber-Bosch ammonia synthesis.


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09 Dec 2011, 5:37 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Atomic rockets are more fun than stationary power plants.

Fission powered cruise missiles are, in terms of pure awesomeness, better than atomic rockets.



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09 Dec 2011, 6:35 pm

An interesting fact about Chenobyl is that it was possibly predicted in the Bible. In Revelations 8 it refers to a great star falling from heaven
and making the waters bitter,causing many men to die.The name of the star is Wormwood.

The name Chernobyl is apparently from the Russian for a plant that is of the same genus as wormwood.


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09 Dec 2011, 6:38 pm

dmm1010 wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Atomic rockets are more fun than stationary power plants.

Fission powered cruise missiles are, in terms of pure awesomeness, better than atomic rockets.


nuclear reactor are too heavy to power any kind of air craft.

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09 Dec 2011, 6:47 pm

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I have an interest in Chernobyl because it's a big part of why energy took the direction it took. There was an accident. As with many relatively new industries, things go wrong and you don't know where the problems are at first. Now it is well understood that reactors must be designed to have a negative void coefficient (Chernobyl) and a means of handling the decay heat at shutdown (Fukushima).

Nevertheless, that doesn't mean we should abandon the benefits of nuclear power, but rather, learn from the mistakes and don't repeat them. Passenger jets used to crash a lot more often than they do now, but we still use them and they have become a lot safer.

I don't think anyone ever thought that constructing a reactor in which the reaction rate increases with temperature was a particularly good idea. The RBMK design was entirely expedient. The Soviets wanted a power reactor right now so they basically took a military reactor that was only intended to generate plutonium for use in weapons and therefore didn't include any energy collection mechanism, and they scaled it up while tacking on a water cooling loop.

I've always been fascinated by nuclear reactors in general and Chernobyl in particular. I'd love to visit the Zone of Alienation.

Have you heard about SL-1? It was a low power reactor that was intended to serve remote RADAR stations that were part of the Distant Early Warning Line. The prototype exploded, killing three people. Investigators suggested that the explosion was intentionally caused by one of the operators as a means of committing suicide and killing another operator. Supposedly this man was carrying on an affair with the alleged saboteur's wife. It's an intriguing story.

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When the first synthetic ammonia plant in Oppau, Germany exploded, hundreds of people died, but BASF got the plant up and running again soon afterward, and today, synthetic ammonia and its derivatives are crucial for feeding the people. About 1/2 of all the nitrogen atoms in your body were run through the Haber-Bosch ammonia synthesis.

Well, since you mention this: has anyone read The Alchemy of Air? If so, how was it? It has been on my list of books to read for a while.



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09 Dec 2011, 6:57 pm

ruveyn wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Fission powered cruise missiles are, in terms of pure awesomeness, better than atomic rockets.

nuclear reactor are too heavy to power any kind of air craft.

ruveyn

Did you click on the link? :)



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09 Dec 2011, 7:49 pm

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09 Dec 2011, 9:17 pm

dmm1010 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Fission powered cruise missiles are, in terms of pure awesomeness, better than atomic rockets.

nuclear reactor are too heavy to power any kind of air craft.

ruveyn

Did you click on the link? :)


They never flew.

From the article:
On May 14, 1961, the world's first nuclear ramjet engine, "Tory-IIA," mounted on a railroad car, roared to life for a few seconds. Three years later, "Tory-IIC" was run for five minutes at full power. Despite these and other successful tests the Pentagon, sponsor of the "Pluto project," had second thoughts

The power to weight ratio of a nuclear reactor is pathetic.

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09 Dec 2011, 9:56 pm

pluto wrote:
An interesting fact about Chenobyl is that it was possibly predicted in the Bible. In Revelations 8 it refers to a great star falling from heaven
and making the waters bitter,causing many men to die.The name of the star is Wormwood.

The name Chernobyl is apparently from the Russian for a plant that is of the same genus as wormwood.



In The Russian Orthodox Faith, we hear about wormwood all the time, and most of the Orthodox churches use 'wormwood' so those who visit Pripyat' and Chernobyl, always make sure the Bible is open to the 'wormwood' section.

No one would EVER steal from an orthodox church!


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09 Dec 2011, 10:13 pm

ruveyn wrote:
They never flew.

True.

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From the article:
On May 14, 1961, the world's first nuclear ramjet engine, "Tory-IIA," mounted on a railroad car, roared to life for a few seconds. Three years later, "Tory-IIC" was run for five minutes at full power. Despite these and other successful tests the Pentagon, sponsor of the "Pluto project," had second thoughts

The power to weight ratio of a nuclear reactor is pathetic.

ruveyn

Unfortunately I've never seen numbers for SLAM. I'll definitely give you that reactors generally are heavy, but recall SLAM's reactor was air-cooled and completely unshielded.