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23 Jan 2012, 4:05 pm

A really neat medical research article on psilocybin. Interesting to see how tuning down certain parts of the brain could have such a profoundly positive effect, albeit in short durations. They're saying that they may find treatments for depression via this patheway as well:

http://news.yahoo.com/magic-mushrooms-t ... 08739.html


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23 Jan 2012, 5:49 pm

a treatment for depression using hallucinogens? Who knew drugs offered euphoric escapes...

What a break through



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23 Jan 2012, 5:58 pm

In the article (or maybe it was another article linked to in the original one), it said that people w/terminal cancer who were given one dose of such a drug had benefits in anxiety that lasted for 6 months. So, there seems to be effects that go beyond getting high for a short while.



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23 Jan 2012, 5:58 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
A really neat medical research article on psilocybin. Interesting to see how tuning down certain parts of the brain could have such a profoundly positive effect, albeit in short durations. They're saying that they may find treatments for depression via this patheway as well:

http://news.yahoo.com/magic-mushrooms-t ... 08739.html



No wonder I used to leave school at lunch to go pick mushrooms after the Oregonian rain I was getting medicine! :P

Seriously though, I haven't had them in years.



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23 Jan 2012, 5:59 pm

WhiteWidow wrote:
a treatment for depression using hallucinogens? Who knew drugs offered euphoric escapes...

What a break through



LOL :P



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23 Jan 2012, 8:27 pm

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a treatment for depression using hallucinogens? Who knew drugs offered euphoric escapes...

What a break through

From my own experience the people who say its somewhere in the top 5 most meaningful experiences they've ever had, even top three as the article put, aren't far off the mark. That's all the more reason it needs to be respected - when that kind of thing becomes a party drug a person's in a sense abusing the closest thing you can find in this life to something 'sacred' in terms of experiences.

I just love that they're able to isolate something from it in terms of knowledge of the human brain and in a way that, who knows, they may be able to come up with something that gives us the best of the frame of mind, accuity, and wisdom, essentially without the high. That could be tricky in the sense that it could be addictive for people who are workaholics but, it could be one way that we may be able to really blast ourselves off on exponential growth as a culture.


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23 Jan 2012, 10:01 pm

A drug called "Cafergot" has been used to treat migraines. Its active ingredient, Ergotamine, is derived from the ergot fungus, which has hallucinogenic properties, and is also a precursor to L.S.D.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
A drug called "Cafergot" has been used to treat migraines. Its active ingredient, Ergotamine, is derived from the ergot fungus, which has hallucinogenic properties, and is also a precursor to L.S.D.


I used to like LSD quite a lot. Hello Punk Rock Party People with pink cake and green icing. I had a more interesting family...We'd take acid and go the the museums and watch the paintings come alive for fun. My mother thought that opiates and purple microdot made good stocking stuffers. I'm a good girl now though. :P



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28 Jan 2012, 4:41 am

I don't see how psychedelics could ever become party drugs.. they're just not that kind of experience. At the same time, they're not just 'wacky rides through cartoon land' (sort of, but they never were entirely that for me) so eventually society will get over its collective fear and realize they have legitimate uses in helping humanity become more self-aware and able than it currently is - and after taking psychedelics a few times, humanity strikes me as bizarrely unaware of much of anything.. Fear is ultimately useless in any situation



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28 Jan 2012, 10:31 am

PersephoneX wrote:
I used to like LSD quite a lot. Hello Punk Rock Party People with pink cake and green icing. I had a more interesting family...We'd take acid and go the the museums and watch the paintings come alive for fun. My mother thought that opiates and purple microdot made good stocking stuffers. I'm a good girl now though. :P


I admit, that sounds like so much fun. I'm already a good girl, though.



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28 Jan 2012, 11:06 am

mglosenger wrote:
and after taking psychedelics a few times, humanity strikes me as bizarrely unaware of much of anything..

Very well put. That's largely been my own sense of things as well (albeit I had that previous and it got excaburated even more).


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28 Jan 2012, 2:34 pm

smudge wrote:
PersephoneX wrote:
I used to like LSD quite a lot. Hello Punk Rock Party People with pink cake and green icing. I had a more interesting family...We'd take acid and go the the museums and watch the paintings come alive for fun. My mother thought that opiates and purple microdot made good stocking stuffers. I'm a good girl now though. :P


I admit, that sounds like so much fun. I'm already a good girl, though.


Oh, it was fun! All families have their Holiday traditions...lol So ours was to go to bars and pretend we didn't speak English, visit museums on LSD....and take a bath in the bathtub of our favorite Chinese restaurant. I miss my crazy mother! She was also an Aspie. Who says we don't know how to have fun? I beg to disagree. We are perfectly fun on our own planet.

((( Good girl hugs)))



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28 Jan 2012, 2:50 pm

mglosenger wrote:
I don't see how psychedelics could ever become party drugs.. they're just not that kind of experience. At the same time, they're not just 'wacky rides through cartoon land' (sort of, but they never were entirely that for me) so eventually society will get over its collective fear and realize they have legitimate uses in helping humanity become more self-aware and able than it currently is - and after taking psychedelics a few times, humanity strikes me as bizarrely unaware of much of anything.. Fear is ultimately useless in any situation


LSD was pre party and actually, The party was for my boyfriend's grandmother's 99th birthday party. It just so happened that the young adults at the party were punk rockers and the cake was pink and green. It would have been really funny straight, but it was quite a scene on LSD. The pink and green cake, the pointy party hats strapped onto pieced punk rockers, all the mis-matched cups and plates, the fact that they wrapped up a box of tissue and some vaseline intensive care as presents ( We were all ( Us and the punk rockers) chanting vibrator while she opened them up...and imagine the letdown when it was just lotion...There was a resounding Awwwwww) ...that was outrageously funny. She was partly deaf and they were talking to her with an archaic ear horn. His mother had a Beehive hairstyle, wore black horn rimmed glasses, clothes from the 60's and constantly was either eating potato chips or chain smoking. His father was in his 70's ( they had him later in life) and his father was bald, had a voice like Elmer Fudd and rode a Harley Davidson complete with black bomber helmet. Needless to say, we were laughing like maniacs.

It's more of an intimate drug...truly.



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29 Jan 2012, 11:18 am

Mushrooms are very interesting. I took some last summer, and for a while, I was keenly aware of the world around me in terms of, I saw details from the outside in. Instead of pondering over the small stuff. I noticed a lot more. Like how people were feeling.

Mushroom trips are as close to being NT as I've ever gotten.


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29 Jan 2012, 12:35 pm

AnnettaMarie wrote:
Mushrooms are very interesting. I took some last summer, and for a while, I was keenly aware of the world around me in terms of, I saw details from the outside in. Instead of pondering over the small stuff. I noticed a lot more. Like how people were feeling.

Mushroom trips are as close to being NT as I've ever gotten.



I also used to like them. I felt keenly aware of everything. I believe it's the change in focus. Many medicines are a derivative of a sort of plant life. Maybe at some point mushrooms will be used medicinally.

Are you tempted to try them again?



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30 Jan 2012, 2:58 am

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I also used to like them. I felt keenly aware of everything. I believe it's the change in focus. Many medicines are a derivative of a sort of plant life. Maybe at some point mushrooms will be used medicinally.

Are you tempted to try them again?


Probably at some point. I'm on other medications right now and I'm not sure what is and isn't safe to take, or if the mushrooms would even work.

I might go pick some with a friend next year. We were going to this year, but I ended up moving out of the apartment and we just never got around to it.


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