The F-35 decision: Disastrous implications for UK airpower

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10 Jul 2012, 11:56 pm

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he May 2012 announcement by the Secretary of State for Defence that the variant of F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (or Joint Combat Aircraft in UK parlance) to be acquired for the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force was again being changed marks the third iteration in a decade-long process.

The decision to revert to the F-35B short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) variant instead of the F-35C carrier variant, justified on the basis of the supposed cost of configuring the Queen Elizabeth-class (QEC) for catapult assisted take-off but arrested recovery operations (CATOBAR), has significant long-term implications for UK airpower.

The F-35B constitutes a substantially less capable asset than the F-35C, in particular with regard to range, persistence and internal payload, has a higher unit acquisition cost and greater through life costs and does not meet the UK’s deep persistent offensive capability (DPOC) requirement. This will require either the acceptance of a significant capability gap or the acquisition of another aircraft, that is, most likely the F-35A, to address the DPOC requirement. Moreover, the F-35B is projected to have an out of service date of 2042, whereas the QEC are expected to remain in service until 2070; follow-on systems (such as sixth generation optionally manned/unmanned maritime combat air systems) are projected to be configured for CATOBAR operations. The selection of the F-35B is thus neither cost effective nor the optimum long-term solution to UK airpower requirements.

This paper examines the implications of the F-35 variant decision for UK airpower, with a particular focus on the difference in capability between the F-35B and C, the DPOC requirement and the potential acquisition of the F-35A to fulfil it, and the loss of the strategic flexibility provided by CATOBAR. The paper will argue that the decision to acquire the F-35B is not cost effective and will leave the UK with a sub-optimal airpower capability.

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11 Jul 2012, 8:51 am

You guys can't afford it.

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14 Jul 2012, 9:00 am

The daft thing is we still have loads of airstrips scattered all round the world in strategic places as a leftover from our empire days and don't really need carriers to launch airstrikes from.

When you look at how technology is trending we would probably be much better off investing in a bunch more missile subs & cruisers, a carrier is just a really expensive target.



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17 Jul 2012, 1:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
You guys can't afford it.

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Like us guys can afford the V-22 Osprey? :roll:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYeLishJ_Js&feature=related[/youtube]

v-22 Osprey: A Flying Shame (Time Magazine link)

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Now the aircraft that flies like an airplane but takes off and lands like a chopper is about to make its combat debut in Iraq. It has been a long, strange trip: the V-22 has been 25 years in development, more than twice as long as the Apollo program that put men on the moon. V-22 crashes have claimed the lives of 30 men — 10 times the lunar program's toll — all before the plane has seen combat. The Pentagon has put $20 billion into the Osprey and expects to spend an additional $35 billion before the program is finished. In exchange, the Marines, Navy and Air Force will get 458 aircraft, averaging $119 million per copy.


Only two crashes so far this year. Sounds like its almost ready.

Or the F-22 Raptor?

Air Force solves F-22 oxygen supply mystery? << link to CBS news video

only ~ $100 million per plane, chump change


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17 Jul 2012, 1:10 pm

What do you think is going to happen, the Russians are going to attack and steal your fish and chips? Shut your military down.



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17 Jul 2012, 6:02 pm

My country wants to replace its all F16 fleet with an all JSF fleet. I don't know why every country in the world is desperately continuing the JSF-program when there is clearly no money. I reckon this is going to be one of the biggest fails in the 21st century.

Some people say Pim Fortuyn got murdered because he was an active anti-JSF politician who was about to take a lot of seats in the parlement. Ofcourse this is all a consipiracy...



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17 Jul 2012, 6:20 pm

MyFutureSelfnMe wrote:
What do you think is going to happen, the Russians are going to attack and steal your fish and chips? Shut your military down.


Yup, because the U.S. military is all the military the world needs :roll:


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