Who built the pyramids?

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I found this on youtube, all comments welcome.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5BQZaYw90A[/youtube]

I have no doubt the ancient Egyptians were master stone workers and they had enough labor to move very heavy stones (usinging ramps and rollers). What I am wondering is what the people who made this documentary meant by "high technology". I define high technology as technology based on steam power, electrical power or nuclear power. Technology limited to muscles, ramps, levers and rollers is not what I would call "high technology": High technology demands the existence of a working theory of energy, motion, thermodynamics and such like. The Egyptians could not have had this. Why. Their mathematics as revealed by surviving papyrus documents indicate that Egyptian mathematics was -crude-. They did not have the zero. Nor did they have an algebraic system nor did they have axiomatic geometry (the Greeks invented that). No math, no physical theory, therefore no "high technology".

I am not for one minute denigrating the intelligence of the Egyptian engineers. They had a high order of empirically based engineering and they know some good tricks in cutting and moving the stone. They measure good right angles with a 3-4-5 knotted rope indicating that new special cases of what came to be know as Pythagoras Theorem. But the Egyptian mathematicians did not prove theorems. Going by their mathematical papyrus documents they used heuristic rules of thumb to solve their math problems. Even so. Organizing the labor of 20-50 thousand workers, scheduling food and material deliveries and such like indicates a very high order of managerial skill. The number of tasks that had to be sequenced and scheduled to build something like the Great Pyramid of Kufu rivals the complexity of the Apollo Project in our times. The Egyptians were first rate managers of labor by any standard, even modern standards using computers and PERT charts to lay out the work flow.

In the matter of mangement the ancient builders easily rival and equal modern project management. And it was all done with papyrus, quills, ink and maybe something like an abacus to do the arithmetic.

ruveyn

And yet even in our age of high technology we cannot replicate the achievements of pre-dynastic Egypt.

They were built by human slaves as landing sites for alien spacecraft belonging to these other humans with tiny snakes in their heads.

Sorry, someone had to make the Stargate reference.

BS. To make perfectly measured stones like the Egyptians used, all you need is time. They had time. More specifically, they had a labour force of thousands. More workers = less time needed.

Logistically is easy, again time is all you need. You can move stones weighing a thousand tons by using leverage correctly.

"...I'm pretty sure - it was a guy named Eddie."

(wish I could remember the name of the comedian who did that sketch!)

Trick question. The Pyramids are a natural geological phenomenon. They were created by an extremely obsessive earthquake.

Their continued existence has already been threatened by religious totalitarians in the country.

They are quite beautiful as monuments though. I'm told they're pretty breathtaking.

If Egypt sorts itself out (unlikely in the extreme in the short and medium term, I think), I'll happily go.

It is being claimed that we don't even know how to move a stone that weighs 1-3 tonns. The thunderstone is the biggest known stone that has ever been moved by mankind with primitive means, and that weighed 1,250 tonns!
Link: Bronze Horseman
This video explaines how it is possible to carve out the blocks use to build the pyramid and how to put them in place.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNPTRl1w7U[/youtube]
This video explaines the "lightbulbs".
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSw4VkGfNGM[/youtube]
The hieroglyphs from Abydos that "proves" that the ancient egyptians had helicopters, is actually a product of royal jealousy. The building of the temple started in the 19. egyptian dynasti, by farao Seti I, and he had his name carved in over the door. The work was finished by his son , Ramesses II, who didn't wan't to share any of the credit, and therefore were many of the herioglyphs in the temple covered with plaster and recarved. In other words, the "vessels" is Seti's name with Ramesses written over it.
Link: The Abydos-Hieroglyph does NOT depict a Helicopter

And for the sake of common sence, we are alking about a people that believed that the sun was moved across the sky by a giant dungbeetle, that the brain were of now importance and that it was a good idea to use donkeyliver as hairgel

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Utter and complete nonsense. Can a tornado rushing through a junk yard produce a complete 747 ready to fly?

ruveyn

Why should we and how could we. We have lighter stronger materials than granite and limestone. Carbon fibers will last forever. Steel wont last forever but will last long enough to sink the capital costs of construction. Forever is not necessary for being useful.

As to labor, we have outlawed slavery. There is no way we can get 50,000 sweating wretched folk to labor 20 years without a break just to build a tomb for some megalomaniac who thinks he is a God.

ruveyn

The pyramids were built by muscle/labor, both animal and human ...



... and no, they are NOT landing sites for extra-terrestrial UFOs, in spite of what you may have seen on Stargate: SG1.

Sholva! Kneel before your God!

What in the blue hell is that?!

Not today ... busy ... got a cake in the oven and people are dropping by ... some other time ...

I laughed loud enough to disturb the neighbours upstairs!