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28 Jan 2015, 6:56 pm

I had been having problems with Flash lately, since the only version available for Firefox on Linux is severely outdated, so following this guide, I managed to get a newer version, specifically the one from Google Chrome, working in FF. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install- ... buntu.html



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29 Jan 2015, 7:09 am

I've never liked Chrome, I passionately hate the UI. Considering the fact that this is also a webkit based browser, getting a current version of Flash to work with it might be a better option.


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29 Jan 2015, 3:32 pm

Chrome is alright, but it's not my favorite browser. I pretty much installed it just so I could use its Flash plugin on Pale Moon.



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29 Jan 2015, 3:59 pm

Congratulations on your creative solution!

I have never understood why web masters fail to update their site's flash applications more often than, say, every five years. Worse, their site coding doesn't recognize truly up-to-date versions of flash. Sooo, I guess these sites expect us to lug around every version of flash that has ever been published, just in case?

I don't use Ubuntu (though I am very tempted), but I have used Firefox for years.


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29 Jan 2015, 4:30 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
Congratulations on your creative solution!

I have never understood why web masters fail to update their site's flash applications more often than, say, every five years. Worse, their site coding doesn't recognize truly up-to-date versions of flash. Sooo, I guess these sites expect us to lug around every version of flash that has ever been published, just in case?

I don't use Ubuntu (though I am very tempted), but I have used Firefox for years.


Actually, the problem is that Adobe doesn't want to bother with supporting Flash on Linux... except for on Google Chrome. This means that the latest version of Flash for most browsers on Linux is only 11.2, with some occasional security updates backported. Further complicating the situation, instead of using a normal build of Firefox, I use Pale Moon, which is a stripped down, optimized build without the Australis interface, based on Firefox's ESR branch. Because of this, a lot of sites think I'm running an older version of Firefox, even though what I'm running is up to date.

Adobe should have never bought Macromedia, and Apple should have never declared its idiotic war on Flash. Flash isn't the greatest web technology, but it's still used for a lot of different things. What I would like to see is a good Flash-to-HTML5 wrapper, so that we can finally ditch it and still watch old Homestar Runner cartoons. :P



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30 Jan 2015, 4:48 am

you should look into pipelight if you want to have flash for firefox.
it works great on this pc, had to go this route because this pc is for workrelated stuff only and i dont want to risk anything on my main pc. this one is so old the processor cant deal with the chrome flash plugin. something about the way it communitates with the processor(didnt bother to look into it deeper).



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30 Jan 2015, 5:13 am

Thanks! Been getting messages in Firefox since yesterday about the plug-in being outdated ...

EDIT: this is actually worse than the usual plug-in! Now nothing loads ...


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30 Jan 2015, 6:47 pm

Jules_Bonnot_1912 wrote:
Thanks! Been getting messages in Firefox since yesterday about the plug-in being outdated ...

EDIT: this is actually worse than the usual plug-in! Now nothing loads ...


I almost forgot to mention, you have to delete the old plugin and go into Firefox's plugin options to enable the new one. Specifically, you have to go into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and delete the flash plugin NOT named "libfreshwrapper-pepperflash.so"

Also, it's been updated recently so that you can configure it for hardware acceleration. It's kind of a complicated process though, and I have not tried it yet. http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/fresh-pl ... lease.html



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01 Feb 2015, 4:56 am

Mint I just updated, and no more problem. It isn't the first time either.



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01 Feb 2015, 5:18 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Mint I just updated, and no more problem. It isn't the first time either.


Mint is a pretty user-friendly distro, though I will admit that I'm not the biggest fan of it. It just doesn't feel as "solid" as Xubuntu, and it seems like it goes out of its way more to appeal to non-technical users.



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01 Feb 2015, 1:55 pm

Flash in Firefox under Xubuntu is pretty buggy.
It crashes often.
Since Firefox tabs don't run in single tasks like in Google Chrome the whole browser crashes (Sending problem report dialog).



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01 Feb 2015, 4:37 pm

UliS wrote:
Flash in Firefox under Xubuntu is pretty buggy.
It crashes often.
Since Firefox tabs don't run in single tasks like in Google Chrome the whole browser crashes (Sending problem report dialog).


Try Pale Moon. It's better than lock-stock Firefox. I don't like Google Chrome because its addon support isn't as good, and the multi-process nature of it actually makes it use a LOT more system resources on most of the systems I've used it on. If you only have a single or dual core machine, Chrome is an absolute pig. People complain about Firefox's memory leaks, but its ram usage isn't usually that bad for me, even with tons of addons and about a dozen tabs open.

I know a lot of people will keep hundreds of tabs open, but I don't see the point of it. I can't focus on that many tabs at once, so when I come across a page I want to read later on, I bookmark it. I literally have thousands of bookmarks, some of them going back almost 10 years.



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03 Feb 2015, 11:45 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Mint I just updated, and no more problem. It isn't the first time either.


Mint is a pretty user-friendly distro, though I will admit that I'm not the biggest fan of it. It just doesn't feel as "solid" as Xubuntu, and it seems like it goes out of its way more to appeal to non-technical users.


Which does?

I'm a technical user.

What does solid mean?

The point is the community knows about this issue and fixed in the realease.



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03 Feb 2015, 5:57 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Mint I just updated, and no more problem. It isn't the first time either.


Mint is a pretty user-friendly distro, though I will admit that I'm not the biggest fan of it. It just doesn't feel as "solid" as Xubuntu, and it seems like it goes out of its way more to appeal to non-technical users.


Which does?

I'm a technical user.

What does solid mean?

The point is the community knows about this issue and fixed in the realease.


Mint doesn't feel as solid as Xubuntu. It's different enough from other Ubuntu distros that it's harder to find relevant information for online, and it has issues that Ubuntu/Xubuntu itself doesn't have. Also, it's a bigger pig on system resources.