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27 Oct 2015, 5:06 pm

Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe.
The word atom originally meant the *one* thing that all things are made. We have returned to this definition.
The atom is a one dimensional thing that has a gradient of existence along its length. As it gains energy its length increases. If such a 1D thing flying through space encounters another of its kind it will collide and deflect - with each 1D thing travelling on in the same plane as it was originally travelling - no matter what its original orientation, a 1D 1D collision at different angles is not "felt" as anything but a 1D collision.
A sea of atoms will constantly collide and deflect, each travelling on in its own plane. A 1D thing only travels perpendicular to its length, it has no other existence.
The gradient of existence along the length of the atom affects every one of these collisions in the same way - it always turns to the "heavy" side, the one with more existence. In a homogenous field of atoms the paths of these nonstop collisions turn into circles. The only way that can happen is if the atomic length to angle of deflection ratio is Pi (1/2 probabilistic perfect path length\rotation radii length (I would have defined it differently)). The physics of these 1D collisions define Pi.
An atom with very little energy will be very short and move in an almost perfectly straight line. As it gains energy and length it turns more at each collision. A 1D atom travelling a 2D path is a photon. Increasing the energy/length/deflection_angle increases the frequency of rotation and the diameter of the path (ditto for a photon). An atom of blue is a photon with a path diameter of approximately 420nm. Keep adding energy through ultraviolet and gamma smaller path diameters.
As the atom gains energy and length it turns sharper and sharper at every collision. Keep adding energy and it will eventually turn so tightly that it presents itself as a spinning ring that other atoms can't pass. If an atom bounces off of this ring/disc it will continue on it its own plane, only to return if travelling through a homogenous volume of other atoms.
If there is a concentration of atoms the field density increases. In the higher density field the atoms turn more quickly as the deflection angle remains the same but the numbers of collisions increase. If there is a gradient of field density the path of the atoms will turn to the familiar egg shaped orbital path as it moves toward and away from the concentration.
If the atom gains enough energy/length/deflection_angle it will start to spin within its own length. As this happens the tail end starts colliding in the opposite direction than that of the rotation. The path goes chaotic. At this point it gets hard to visualize. the simple 2D path has contorted into a 3D chaotic path due to the length being increase to the point that it can collide with multiple atoms at the same time (this'll need a supercomputer). The result being an atom in a chaotic, periodic path enclosing a volume of space. As even more energy is added this path with bifurcate in the chaotic periodic way increasing its contortions, length and volume of space - with each stable periodicity representing a element. Keep cranking up the energy dial and these increasingly complex periodic paths get unstable. At this point the energy density that the path exists in gets to be important. Higher energy densities can support more complex paths. If a complex path moves to a lower energy density it becomes unstable and... decays. The probabilistic amount of time that it would take to decay lowers as the energy density lowers. That pretty much means that time is a rate of energy transfer from the field of atoms to three dimensional matter.
Yep, just defined time. Time is the energy transfer rate from the field of 1D atoms travelling in random 2D paths to the 3D paths that define matter.
I'll stop here. This is a physical model that can explain both relativity and quantum mechanics.
(also positive, negative, weak force, strong force, electromagnetism, gravity, matter and time)
Teaser Trailer : The extrapolations from this basic model do not coincide with current cosmological dogma. The fields of atoms in increasing densities are gravitational fields *and* the new aether, not the old static luminiferous aether but a new dynamic following one integral to all matter.


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28 Oct 2015, 8:49 pm

First of all, you misunderstand space.

Space isn't zero-dimensional, it can't be either. A space is 2 or more dimensions. A space (mathematically speaking) is a set of geometric points that satisfy Euclid's postulate, therefore 2 or more dimensions.

0-dimensionality means that an object has NO degrees of freedom to move around in, or one point.


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29 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm

You should ask Erdos.


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29 Oct 2015, 4:18 pm

"Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe."

Really? It is no secret you misunderstand space. I would ask Erdos, but he is dead.

Perhaps a space could be less than 2 dimensions, but that quote says it all. You misunderstand space.


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30 Oct 2015, 12:16 am

ScottTheSculptor wrote:
Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe.
The word atom originally meant the *one* thing that all things are made. We have returned to this definition.
The atom is a one dimensional thing that has a gradient of existence along its length. As it gains energy its length increases. If such a 1D thing flying through space encounters another of its kind it will collide and deflect - with each 1D thing travelling on in the same plane as it was originally travelling - no matter what its original orientation, a 1D 1D collision at different angles is not "felt" as anything but a 1D collision.
A sea of atoms will constantly collide and deflect, each travelling on in its own plane. A 1D thing only travels perpendicular to its length, it has no other existence.
The gradient of existence along the length of the atom affects every one of these collisions in the same way - it always turns to the "heavy" side, the one with more existence. In a homogenous field of atoms the paths of these nonstop collisions turn into circles. The only way that can happen is if the atomic length to angle of deflection ratio is Pi (1/2 probabilistic perfect path length\rotation radii length (I would have defined it differently)). The physics of these 1D collisions define Pi.
An atom with very little energy will be very short and move in an almost perfectly straight line. As it gains energy and length it turns more at each collision. A 1D atom travelling a 2D path is a photon. Increasing the energy/length/deflection_angle increases the frequency of rotation and the diameter of the path (ditto for a photon). An atom of blue is a photon with a path diameter of approximately 420nm. Keep adding energy through ultraviolet and gamma smaller path diameters.
As the atom gains energy and length it turns sharper and sharper at every collision. Keep adding energy and it will eventually turn so tightly that it presents itself as a spinning ring that other atoms can't pass. If an atom bounces off of this ring/disc it will continue on it its own plane, only to return if travelling through a homogenous volume of other atoms.
If there is a concentration of atoms the field density increases. In the higher density field the atoms turn more quickly as the deflection angle remains the same but the numbers of collisions increase. If there is a gradient of field density the path of the atoms will turn to the familiar egg shaped orbital path as it moves toward and away from the concentration.
If the atom gains enough energy/length/deflection_angle it will start to spin within its own length. As this happens the tail end starts colliding in the opposite direction than that of the rotation. The path goes chaotic. At this point it gets hard to visualize. the simple 2D path has contorted into a 3D chaotic path due to the length being increase to the point that it can collide with multiple atoms at the same time (this'll need a supercomputer). The result being an atom in a chaotic, periodic path enclosing a volume of space. As even more energy is added this path with bifurcate in the chaotic periodic way increasing its contortions, length and volume of space - with each stable periodicity representing a element. Keep cranking up the energy dial and these increasingly complex periodic paths get unstable. At this point the energy density that the path exists in gets to be important. Higher energy densities can support more complex paths. If a complex path moves to a lower energy density it becomes unstable and... decays. The probabilistic amount of time that it would take to decay lowers as the energy density lowers. That pretty much means that time is a rate of energy transfer from the field of atoms to three dimensional matter.
Yep, just defined time. Time is the energy transfer rate from the field of 1D atoms travelling in random 2D paths to the 3D paths that define matter.
I'll stop here. This is a physical model that can explain both relativity and quantum mechanics.
(also positive, negative, weak force, strong force, electromagnetism, gravity, matter and time)
Teaser Trailer : The extrapolations from this basic model do not coincide with current cosmological dogma. The fields of atoms in increasing densities are gravitational fields *and* the new aether, not the old static luminiferous aether but a new dynamic following one integral to all matter.


May I inquire, are these your ideas exclusively or are they someone elses?
Could you provide a link to a more exhaustive explication of this model?



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30 Oct 2015, 4:05 am

verse is (in) the universe, all patern is rhythm,

https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tala_(music)

take the brain (ref to other post, but opposed) imagening is free, everything is the same on another level

so (imagine) the universe might compose as the atoms, neurons, ~the grey and other matter~ of the brain,

or imagine something else

getting different pictures is crucial,

not fixing things on a X (*as: monotheism and 1 truth)


now-here "we"'re fixated on seeing mass and thus seeing it in the smaller and in the bigger

but that's HOW we look now https://www.google.fr/search?q=electron ... 86&bih=725

and that's also just another brick in the wall : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAIKNvv_b3I


to everyone it's own references in all,

the movement of newborns, as personal/partial observation, is the movement of the spermatozoon

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _sperm.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... rm-egg.jpg



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30 Oct 2015, 1:35 pm

Original.
The whole particle/wave thing is solved: 1D atom is particle, path of particle through aether is wave.
Just make a field of 1D atoms and insert it into the void of spacetime.
This is also the solution to the causality problem in uncertainty.
You can follow the deconstruction on my facebook page: Scott Van Note


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30 Oct 2015, 8:22 pm

ScottTheSculptor wrote:
Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe.
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:arrow: How can something with spatial extent be within something with NO spatial extent?
:arrow: There cannot be a 'within' as there is no 'room'.
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The word atom originally meant the *one* thing that all things are made. We have returned to this definition.
The atom is a one dimensional thing that has a gradient of existence along its length.

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:arrow: :arrow: If an atom was 1D an atomic monolayer would have no height and an AFM tip would not be bumped up when gliding from the substrate up onto the monolayer....but it does.



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30 Oct 2015, 8:54 pm

slave wrote:
ScottTheSculptor wrote:
Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:arrow: How can something with spatial extent be within something with NO spatial extent?
:arrow: There cannot be a 'within' as there is no 'room'.
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The word atom originally meant the *one* thing that all things are made. We have returned to this definition.
The atom is a one dimensional thing that has a gradient of existence along its length.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:arrow: :arrow: If an atom was 1D an atomic monolayer would have no height and an AFM tip would not be bumped up when gliding from the substrate up onto the monolayer....but it does.


Exactly.


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31 Oct 2015, 1:10 am

to be or not to be

problem is we know not who is on the other screen

i like tim blais on universes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotatio ... 3mrhkszJIc



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31 Oct 2015, 1:12 pm

If you want to label something as the "zero-eth" dimension, that would be time, the only temporal dimension (those above it being spacial). Time is consistency, and time has the ability to not exist. Above that is the first dimension, which is a point. Still no space. Only starting in the second dimension is there space: length and width, or the x and y axes. In the third dimension, you acquire the z axis. Space cannot exist without time, for all that we know, because no dimension is below time, and time does not necessarily involve space.

Also, an atom is not 1D, because, as is well known, an atom contains smaller particles, and those particles contain smaller particles of their own. Even those elementary particles (electrons, quarks, etc.) can't be classified as 1D, because according to the most fundamental definitions of string theory, a "string" must contain at least length and width in order to even be the shape of the string theorized. As far as I've learned, the first dimension can only be expressed mathematically, just as those dimensions above the third in M-theory are.


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31 Oct 2015, 1:22 pm

This thread should have been originated in the Philosophy, Politics, and Religion forum, since the first post seems to have little - if anything - to do with science.



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31 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm

Fnord, I wouldn't say that. He had a theory that he wanted to share, but he just wasn't informed that some of his evidence for it was incorrectly sourced. Cut him some slack.


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31 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm

I am not asking that this thread be deleted, nor am I attacking the person who started it.

I'm just saying that since the claims made in the original post seem to lack scientific provenance, that maybe the PP&R forum is a more appropriate place for it - that's all.



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31 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm

ScottTheSculptor wrote:
Space is the zero-eth dimension. In it are one, two and three dimensional objects each experiencing its own version of the universe.
The word atom originally meant the *one* thing that all things are made. We have returned to this definition.
The atom is a one dimensional thing that has a gradient of existence along its length. As it gains energy its length increases. If such a 1D thing flying through space encounters another of its kind it will collide and deflect - with each 1D thing travelling on in the same plane as it was originally travelling - no matter what its original orientation, a 1D 1D collision at different angles is not "felt" as anything but a 1D collision.
A sea of atoms will constantly collide and deflect, each travelling on in its own plane. A 1D thing only travels perpendicular to its length, it has no other existence.
The gradient of existence along the length of the atom affects every one of these collisions in the same way - it always turns to the "heavy" side, the one with more existence. In a homogenous field of atoms the paths of these nonstop collisions turn into circles. The only way that can happen is if the atomic length to angle of deflection ratio is Pi (1/2 probabilistic perfect path length\rotation radii length (I would have defined it differently)). The physics of these 1D collisions define Pi.
An atom with very little energy will be very short and move in an almost perfectly straight line. As it gains energy and length it turns more at each collision. A 1D atom travelling a 2D path is a photon. Increasing the energy/length/deflection_angle increases the frequency of rotation and the diameter of the path (ditto for a photon). An atom of blue is a photon with a path diameter of approximately 420nm. Keep adding energy through ultraviolet and gamma smaller path diameters.
As the atom gains energy and length it turns sharper and sharper at every collision. Keep adding energy and it will eventually turn so tightly that it presents itself as a spinning ring that other atoms can't pass. If an atom bounces off of this ring/disc it will continue on it its own plane, only to return if travelling through a homogenous volume of other atoms.
If there is a concentration of atoms the field density increases. In the higher density field the atoms turn more quickly as the deflection angle remains the same but the numbers of collisions increase. If there is a gradient of field density the path of the atoms will turn to the familiar egg shaped orbital path as it moves toward and away from the concentration.
If the atom gains enough energy/length/deflection_angle it will start to spin within its own length. As this happens the tail end starts colliding in the opposite direction than that of the rotation. The path goes chaotic. At this point it gets hard to visualize. the simple 2D path has contorted into a 3D chaotic path due to the length being increase to the point that it can collide with multiple atoms at the same time (this'll need a supercomputer). The result being an atom in a chaotic, periodic path enclosing a volume of space. As even more energy is added this path with bifurcate in the chaotic periodic way increasing its contortions, length and volume of space - with each stable periodicity representing a element. Keep cranking up the energy dial and these increasingly complex periodic paths get unstable. At this point the energy density that the path exists in gets to be important. Higher energy densities can support more complex paths. If a complex path moves to a lower energy density it becomes unstable and... decays. The probabilistic amount of time that it would take to decay lowers as the energy density lowers. That pretty much means that time is a rate of energy transfer from the field of atoms to three dimensional matter.
Yep, just defined time. Time is the energy transfer rate from the field of 1D atoms travelling in random 2D paths to the 3D paths that define matter.
I'll stop here. This is a physical model that can explain both relativity and quantum mechanics.
(also positive, negative, weak force, strong force, electromagnetism, gravity, matter and time)
Teaser Trailer : The extrapolations from this basic model do not coincide with current cosmological dogma. The fields of atoms in increasing densities are gravitational fields *and* the new aether, not the old static luminiferous aether but a new dynamic following one integral to all matter.


There is nothing scientific about these assertions. They do not make testable predictions, or explain anything that previous models don't explain. The description is flowery and beautiful, but alas, many beautiful theories turn out to be wrong.

Let's start with etymology. "Atom" does not mean "one". IT mean it can't be cut "A - tom," the indivisible component of matter.

The periodic table was constructed based on the observation of the periodic patterns in the behavior of different elements. It was observational, but at the time they had now explanation of why the atoms behaved this way. Quantum mechanics later provided it. In quantum mechanics, electrons can only occupy discrete energy levels (hence quantized). How the different energy levels can organize relative to each other is governed by three-dimensional geometry. Those equations not only explained the periodic table, but accurately predicted the behavior of as-yet undiscovered elements. That is science.

You seem to have taken a bunch of terms from science and strung them together in relationships that you just made up. You're model basically breaks all physical science since at least 1900, and offers no alternative explanation. It absconds with terms that were defined to explain phenomena totally different than what you claim they are. If you're going to make up new definitions, then you should also make up now words.

To use "photon" as an example. First it was proposed that electromagnetic radiation was be quantized (composed of individual packets), then Einstein used that proposal to explain the photoelectric effect and coined the term photon to describe the packets. If you describe something else, it's not a photon. Make your own word.

Fnord is right. This has "sciencey" words in it, but it takes more than that for something to be science.



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02 Nov 2015, 2:34 pm

The whole confusion is that you are always looking at part of matter.
Mass is a volume of energy.
The 1D atom has to go completely through its path before any volume can be detected.
This is "Uncertainty". You can't measure the location of the atom on the path at the same time that you measure the results of the whole path moving.

An AFM is deflected by the whole collection of chaotic paths - not just one 1D atom.

Photon are massless yet affect matter.

If a photon is travelling at the speed of light its clock stops. Light has no time.
Explain that without this model. Within this model only matter has what we define as "time".

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