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02 Dec 2024, 8:41 pm


this is NOT Johnny cash singing but an AI creation. this can lead to some downright scary things down the road.



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03 Dec 2024, 1:55 am

auntblabby wrote:

this is NOT Johnny cash singing but an AI creation. this can lead to some downright scary things down the road.


I think it already has led to some scary things because I heard people use AI to call elderly people and con them into thinking they are a family member or something and then they proceed to take money from them.



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03 Dec 2024, 11:50 pm

There's also this:

If the timestamp doesn't work, you want to start listening at 6m07s. The version before that isn't impressive IMO. But the second one, done with AI and also with conventional skills, certainly impressed me. The guy who did it said that the AI didn't really help much till he managed to get a somewhat authentic vocal track to feed into it. So I suspect AI is only so far capable of tweaking an already close recording, not of totally transforming it.

It's scary in a way, like deepfake photos, because we can never again be so sure that we're hearing a particular singer just by listening carefully. So trying to collect all a musician's recordings may become impossible. But it already was. Neil Innes was already confusing people, he could sound so much like John Lennon, before AI existed. There'll just be more doubt about more records in the future.

So I'm more interested than scared. As long as I like a record, I don't much mind how it was done, though I don't fully approve of cheating either.



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05 Dec 2024, 6:58 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:

this is NOT Johnny cash singing but an AI creation. this can lead to some downright scary things down the road.


I think it already has led to some scary things because I heard people use AI to call elderly people and con them into thinking they are a family member or something and then they proceed to take money from them.



that's why you should have an agreed code word for when you ask for money from people you know such as "dragonflies"



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06 Dec 2024, 3:50 pm

^
Ah, if the thread's about the general impact of IT, and not just its effects on music, that's a bit scarier. Businesses and governments can be draconian bastards, and the thought of them having the technology to wield even more power over us is as worrying as the thought of a criminal having the technology. Ultimately of course it's not the technology, it's the sociopaths who get control of it that are the problem, but there's no shortage of sociopaths, both with suits and without.

But as far as music goes, separating records into individual instrument tracks has never been easier for those with access to the appropriate AI. This guy is systematically uploading every Beatles' record there is as separates. He's already halfway through the double white album and has already uploaded everything prior to it. I've dowloaded the lot so far - can't be sure they'll always be there for streaming. He's also done a lot of other rock musicians' records.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa68Ch ... GTcg58Dduw

Or better:
https://inv.nadeko.net/channel/UCa68ChYHxw_PVGTcg58Dduw