How much Berkeley's underculture/culture merged into Apple?

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05 Feb 2025, 5:11 pm

Steve Jobs never had studied in Berkeley but Wozniak did and had left it.
Keep in mind probably whole californian universities were alike.
Steve Jobs was hippie and I guess also Wozniak and surely was his ex Brennan (Lisa's mom).
Berkeley is known for Unix AT&T but I love Berkeley for the underculture of Beat generation and hippie. Actually it is the only Usa university I dream to go, in general whole California university.
In Pirate of Silicon Valley you see them go to Berkeley for pc races.
Is it true? Did it was a thing? Of much of Berkeley is alive in Apple?
Did University of Berkeley in some way created Apple?
Machintosh and Mac are still pure BSD and they absolutely got the certificate of being Unix alike from The Open Group.
It is representing the counter culture of University of Berkeley?
Was Apple disliking AT&T for this (X is Not Unix")?
Was Apple believing IBM was the big monster while was Unix?





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12 Feb 2025, 6:25 am

I wouldn't describe either Jobs or Wozniak as hippies. Wozniak was a hard core computer nerd. Jobs had a talent for using people. He co-opted some of the "counter-cultural" trends prevalent in the Bay Area in those days as a substitute for genuine empathy. He got his high school girlfriend pregnant but wouldn't admit paternity for several years. He was very similar to Elon Musk. Were he alive today, he would probably be one of Trump's deputies. My opinion of him is why I avoid buying Apple products as much as possible, although I may compromise my principles by subscribing to Apple+ TV.


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12 Feb 2025, 12:19 pm

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I wouldn't describe either Jobs or Wozniak as hippies. Wozniak was a hard core computer nerd. Jobs had a talent for using people. He co-opted some of the "counter-cultural" trends prevalent in the Bay Area in those days as a substitute for genuine empathy. He got his high school girlfriend pregnant but wouldn't admit paternity for several years. He was very similar to Elon Musk. Were he alive today, he would probably be one of Trump's deputies. My opinion of him is why I avoid buying Apple products as much as possible, although I may compromise my principles by subscribing to Apple+ TV.

ok, then?


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12 Feb 2025, 1:25 pm

If there's influence of hippies on tech bros it's only superficial. They like the idea of government not applying to them, but they don't really seem to have embraced much else.

The techno-libertarianism of Silicon Valley is only superficially influenced by hippiedom.


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