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01 Jan 2009, 9:45 pm

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Is a 4 year college enough to learn everything about programming?



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01 Jan 2009, 9:48 pm

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Is a 4 year college enough to learn everything about programming?


if you want to learn everything? no if you want to specialize it gives you a foundation you will have to work on to specialize. For instance I am going for video game design the programming aspect of it. I will most likely be learning C++ while it gives me a foundation I will have to learn on my free time from jobs to stay current within the industry. In programming there is a few different languages. You won't learn everything it just gives you a foundation.



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01 Jan 2009, 9:55 pm

Of course not, because of the amount of languages as well as types of software that can be made. Also how software development is done by people, be that by people in a company or a opensource/freesoftware development community.

What languages do you know or want to know?


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01 Jan 2009, 10:02 pm

My University's Computer Science degree does not even touch on pathing. To see someone with a degree who doesn't even know what A* is is just... silly.

So that is a big "no".



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01 Jan 2009, 10:18 pm

so its pointless to go to college for the sake of programming? I want to learn c or C++



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01 Jan 2009, 10:22 pm

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so its pointless to go to college for the sake of programming? I want to learn c or C++


no its a foundation as said before no degree program goes into everything required of getting a job in the field. Also to even get a good career you need that piece of paper. Those people who succeed more in a career though are the ones who take the time to really research other aspects of their choosen career on their free time.



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01 Jan 2009, 10:25 pm

ok foundation, how long does it take to learn then?



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01 Jan 2009, 10:28 pm

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ok foundation, how long does it take to learn then?


I would say a 4 year college is the best bet for the foundation. If you mean everything not quite sure since I dunno everything. Just alot of outside research especially if like me your going for video game design.



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01 Jan 2009, 10:45 pm

Abangyarudo wrote:
I will most likely be learning C++ while it gives me a foundation I will have to learn on my free time from jobs to stay current within the industry. In programming there is a few different languages. You won't learn everything it just gives you a foundation.


don't take C++ 1 and 2 concurrently.


I learned that one the hard way :oops:



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01 Jan 2009, 10:47 pm

Shiggily wrote:
Abangyarudo wrote:
I will most likely be learning C++ while it gives me a foundation I will have to learn on my free time from jobs to stay current within the industry. In programming there is a few different languages. You won't learn everything it just gives you a foundation.


don't take C++ 1 and 2 concurrently.


I learned that one the hard way :oops:

I know you were rushing to make an application that contained all the pictures from the best looking male aspies thread. (Don't mind me I'm in a weird mood.)



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01 Jan 2009, 11:06 pm

seaweasel wrote:
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Is a 4 year college enough to learn everything about programming?


Its not possible to learn everything about programming in an entire lifetime.


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01 Jan 2009, 11:54 pm

There's several options available.

You can get a degree in Computer Science from any accredited Uni or College. Even technical colleges support this (I have an AAS in Computer Programming...but it's older than most of the people here...class of '85...;) Probably a good way to go.

There are a few places like DeVry (sp?) that will charge you a few thousand, pound knowledge into your head 8 hours a day, and spit you out in 6 months to a year. If you have the money, and can stand up to the pressure, this is another route. They're probably good places to learn, but don't have the cachet` that a 4-year or 2-year college.

You can do things over the Internet. I think the University of Arizona has a program like that, but it's the same thousands per credit hour.

Some places will charge you thousands (training institutes) to try to teach you things over a weekend. They all send out catalogs for things like certification courses (I think C+ and C# courses are available). These (IMHO) are for people already in the business, who need refereshers, or accreditation for promotions, etc.

There's plenty of ways to do it. Hope one of these works for you.



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02 Jan 2009, 2:58 am

Most computer science courses in universities concentrate on one or two languages throughout the year. Often it's for Linux, C++, C#, and Java. When you get past sophmore year, things tend to get more interesting.

I encourage you to learn the languages you want on your own and request help when you're stuck on something. Universities can be an invaluable resource in these ways.
If you want to get a degree in less than a year and good job prospects, a vocational school is a good place to invest in. DeVry university and ITT are good schools for computer science. However, you need to be very devoted to hands-on learning.

I'm not sure where Open Source fits in at higher learning. I'm actually trying to find that out too since I have a big interest in Open Source. If you truly want to learn about these languages now, I suggest going to the library, amazon, or a bookstore. They all have amazing books about Phython, Perl, Silverstripe, Ruby, and other programming languages.

I wish you luck on whatever you are pursuing!



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02 Jan 2009, 6:22 am

seaweasel wrote:
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Is a 4 year college enough to learn everything about programming?


I don't know, but I suspect kalantir is right.

Still, I'd love to be able to do a 4 year college course on computing. I did a one-year conversion Masters in computer science, and I still feel like I know zilch. I suppose skipping all the classes on computer architecture and operating systems didn't help.