Safari 4.0 Beta

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Well my good friend strapples informed me about the Safari 4.0 beat it is amazing to say the very least, very fast, stable, everything you would expect from a high quality software company. So for those of you who have tried the Safari 4.0 beta what do you think?

i like it.

Is it good enough that you would bother installing it on Ubuntu via wine?

fast huh?

it's probably the slowest browser I ever used.

and I hate the fact that I can't see how many tabs I have up there, they should change the colours or something.

I like the big print though, it doesn't look as good in other browsers I use.

No. The Windows version is not as well implemented as the Mac version. Besides, why bother when Safari is just a cheap knock-off of Konqueror anyways? Install KDE+Konqueror if you want to have an inferior web browser in Linux.

Safari 4 beta is an improvement over Safari 3, but it still is not in the same league with Firefox. Not even close. The tabs are ripped-off from Chrome, the rendering engine is stolen from a Linux-native browser that no one uses, it lacks the extensibility (and therefore most of the functionality) of Firefox, and its default settings suck. Why does Safari always try to open a new window for everything? There's a reason we have tabbed browsing! Come on Apple, get with the twenty-first century. There was not one single new, innovative feature in Safari 4. Everything it has was ripped off from someone else. I wouldn't mind this so much if Apple didn't try to act like they invented everything, but come on. Steve Wozniak's autobiography included in its title "How I invented the personal computer."

On my MacBook with Leopard it is noticeably slower than Opera, Firefox, and Seamonkey. It does have the nice little party trick of passing Acid3, but that doesn't mean much when it is incredibly slow in actual web browsing. Plus, I need my add-ons. There is an unsupported, unofficial adblock plugin for Safari, but it does not work as well as the Firefox Adblock Plus. There's no Autopager, no real Speed Dial, no Foxmarks. It's the default settings and if you don't like it, tough.

Honestly, I'm just sick of OS X in general. It's so damn restrictive and won't let me do things the way I want to. I downloaded some third-party mods recently that improved the situation somewhat, but it still does not let me use my computer the way Ubuntu does. And Leopard fails at virtual desktops.

uhm... to be honest.. i have my safari open stuff in new tabs... and i changed it back to the way safari 3 looks. faster than firefox on my machine. my machine does not like firefox.

Yeah, it can be set to open in new tabs instead of windows, but that it clutters the desktop so badly by default is an annoyance, and the settings to make it behave properly are not readily apparent. I like the new look just fine, but it annoys me to see Apple acting like they're innovative and coming up with all this stuff when most of the new UI stuff in Safari 4 is lifted from Chrome. On my machine, it is way slower than any other browser I've tried. Heck, while Safari was failing at loading a page, I was able to start up Seamonkey (which is huge) and navigate to the page I wanted before Safari was done loading it.

I would use Internet Exploder before Safari.
For now I will stay with Firefox.

I run Mac OS X pre-dominantly(I have my Debian machine right next to me on all the time though) and I actually switched back to Firefox after upgrading to Safari 4.0 BETA.
It's incredibly glitchy(won't even load pages at times when I click links and just reloads the page for one) and pathetically bloated. I doesn't even look good in my opinion. It reminds me of when I first started to use Photoshop, I'd add as many fancy effects as possible and it was a complete overkill and looked stupid, then I noticed a simple gradient or such is enough for text, etc. I mean, seriously, cover flow for history pages? It takes way to long to load the thumbnails for me anyway. The tab bar is stupid too and a complete copy of Google Chrome's.
Okay, so maybe I might(haven't bothered to check) be able to turn off these bloated features and I can change the tab bar(despite the fact I shouldn't have to open a terminal window to configure my browser the way I want). It's still way to glitchy and laggy.
Firefox has worked a lot better and has a decent amount of add-ons.
EMZ=]

The only time I use safari is for looking for stuff for my iPhone or my iPod touch,
but iTunes is better suited for that.

My favorite linux browser is still elinks