Anyone else besides me think Kids TV today is a joke?

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12 Apr 2010, 8:32 pm

Yes I have noticed that and I quite frankly I don't like it as much, the only classics I really like that are still around is Thomas the Tank and an Aussie animated one that is quite openly spiritual.

Most cartoons make me guffaw or nauseauting, times change with generations unfortunately.



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12 Apr 2010, 8:53 pm

Anyone who had the opportunity to watch Mr. Dressup as a kid remember Casey and and his dog Finnegan?

Or what about Word Bird on Fred Penner's Place?

and Iggy Iguana, Jacob Blue Jay and Gloria Groundhog on Under the umbrella tree?

like with the exceptions of George Shrinks and Rolly Polly Ollie I really don't watch any CBC original children's programming or children's programming out of the US that CBC has purchased wights to air in Canada.


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13 Apr 2010, 12:38 pm

Actually, I think Phineas and Ferb is an excellent show. It's good enough to make me disregard one of my own pet peeves... freaky-looking cartoon characters. I don't mind if they have some style but don't look exactly human. But it takes stories and humor of a very high quality to make me overlook animation like theirs. It can become part of the charm if the show's good enough.

That said... just about every other new kid's show is really seriously soul-crushingly hideous. I refuse to sit through an episode of the heavily coked Fairly Oddparents and Fanboy and ChumChum makes me want to scream. The Misadventures of Flapjack is oddly hypnotic. Not good, but just so strange...


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13 Apr 2010, 1:00 pm

Kid shows are just as silly today as they were when you were a kid, except now you have a more adult mindset so these shows seem silly and foolish.

Also nostalgia glasses may be a factor as well.

After watching the nostalgia critic, I feel sorry for my parents who had to sit through some of the crap that I thought was awesome between the ages of 5 to 10.



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13 Apr 2010, 3:24 pm

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Kid shows are just as silly today as they were when you were a kid, except now you have a more adult mindset so these shows seem silly and foolish.

Also nostalgia glasses may be a factor as well.

After watching the nostalgia critic, I feel sorry for my parents who had to sit through some of the crap that I thought was awesome between the ages of 5 to 10.

1. I dont have an "adult" mindset
2. I dont have nostalgia glasses


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13 Apr 2010, 3:52 pm

Eggman wrote:
1. I don't have an "adult" mindset


then what mindset do you have?

I see the ages of some of the people responding in this thread, some in their late teens and some in their 20's-30's, at some point a person ages mentally to some degree, and they will find the plot-lines and jokes for kids shows to be silly, annoying and overused.
This isn't to say that being older means you can't enjoy kids shows, my 51 year old father regularly watches spongebob and thinks it's a great show, but to claim that shows from "our" (I'm assuming that we could be close in age) childhood were better and not silly with cliche plot lines, stock characters, and cheesy jokes then I'd like to know which shows you've seen.

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2. I don't have nostalgia glasses

good for you, but some do.


I can guarantee that in 10 years or so a thread like this will appear again and the then teenagers and early 20 somethings will be saying that kid shows of the future are lame and the shows from their childhood were the best ever.



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13 Apr 2010, 8:30 pm

Well, I enjoy SpongeBob, myself....well, at least before Stephen Hillenburg ditched it. :?

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2.I don't have nostalgia glasses


Neither do I. I just find that a lot of shows these days lack in intellegence and creativity.



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13 Apr 2010, 10:19 pm

darkstone100 wrote:
Eggman wrote:
1. I don't have an "adult" mindset


then what mindset do you have?

I see the ages of some of the people responding in this thread, some in their late teens and some in their 20's-30's, at some point a person ages mentally to some degree, and they will find the plot-lines and jokes for kids shows to be silly, annoying and overused.
This isn't to say that being older means you can't enjoy kids shows, my 51 year old father regularly watches spongebob and thinks it's a great show, but to claim that shows from "our" (I'm assuming that we could be close in age) childhood were better and not silly with cliche plot lines, stock characters, and cheesy jokes then I'd like to know which shows you've seen.

Eggman wrote:
2. I don't have nostalgia glasses

good for you, but some do.


I can guarantee that in 10 years or so a thread like this will appear again and the then teenagers and early 20 somethings will be saying that kid shows of the future are lame and the shows from their childhood were the best ever.


An individualist

Maybe but it has no bearing on my feelings when I state them.


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17 Apr 2010, 12:11 am

I totally agree that all the kids stations are putting out truckloads of s**t. I remember back in the day that cartoon were actually funny. Now a days the jokes on tv suck so bad most of the time I can't tell there are even jokes. I can only name two good current cartoon shows off the top of my head. Phineas and Ferb & Ben 10.

I've actually heard that the reason for the surge in life action stuff on the cartoon channels and other such BS is due to buget cutbacks. I can kinda understand that for Nick or CartoonNetwork, but DISNEY! Disney is one of the biggest media empires in the WORLD. You can not tell me they can't afford stuff. They could not make a dime all year the comp[any would still be a megabillion powerhouse. THem cutting back due to the recession is lunacy.



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20 Apr 2010, 8:51 pm

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I've actually heard that the reason for the surge in life action stuff on the cartoon channels and other such BS is due to buget cutbacks.


Yet another reason why I'm glad I'm not a kid growing up in the 2000s. Less budget cutbacks back then. I feel kind of sorry for kids today. :?

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I can kinda understand that for Nick or CartoonNetwork, but DISNEY! Disney is one of the biggest media empires in the WORLD. You can not tell me they can't afford stuff. They could not make a dime all year the comp[any would still be a megabillion powerhouse. THem cutting back due to the recession is lunacy.


More than likely, it seems like the people behind Disney care more about making a few bucks off of crap, than actually making something entertaining.



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21 Apr 2010, 11:20 pm

I stopped watching Saturday cartoons when the Japanese takeover started, ~1997 when Dragon ball, Pokemon, Digimon, ect. started showing up.

Now there are 10,000 "kids programs" on TV all from Japan, and with the same general lame theme. Battling card/ball monsters. No thanks.

And the animation is, cut corner, cheap, low quality. 30 seconds of the same still scene where all that moves is a mouth and maybe an arm is not cartoon animation, it's lazy.

Cue passionate fan-boy rebuttal :twisted:



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23 Apr 2010, 8:36 am

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I stopped watching Saturday cartoons when the Japanese takeover started, ~1997 when Dragon ball, Pokemon, Digimon, ect. started showing up.

Now there are 10,000 "kids programs" on TV all from Japan, and with the same general lame theme. Battling card/ball monsters. No thanks.

And the animation is, cut corner, cheap, low quality. 30 seconds of the same still scene where all that moves is a mouth and maybe an arm is not cartoon animation, it's lazy.

Cue passionate fan-boy rebuttal :twisted:


^^This with a capital "T".

I mean, the first few times, it's not such a bad idea, but the same damn thing over 28 million times, well, it gets kind of old. That and the fact that they start to look more and more like ventriloquist dummies when they talk.

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23 Apr 2010, 1:28 pm

K_W wrote:
I stopped watching Saturday cartoons when the Japanese takeover started, ~1997 when Dragon ball, Pokemon, Digimon, ect. started showing up.

Now there are 10,000 "kids programs" on TV all from Japan, and with the same general lame theme. Battling card/ball monsters. No thanks.

And the animation is, cut corner, cheap, low quality. 30 seconds of the same still scene where all that moves is a mouth and maybe an arm is not cartoon animation, it's lazy.

Cue passionate fan-boy rebuttal :twisted:



:shaking: Hate to burst that "japanime" takeover bubble you live in but though we weren't technically inendated with it until Fox Kids acquired the rights for series like Digimon and Pokemon in '97 the real takeover on north american airwaves started with YTV(up here in Canada) acquiring the rights for Sailor Moon in '95. Not that I mean to contradict :P


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23 Apr 2010, 9:13 pm

Even movies for kids aren't the same anymore. Let's compare:

A scene from Lion King:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZfeR-QE5io[/youtube]

And a song from Secret of NIMH:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-nS6KeDwU[/youtube]

Now...

A song from HSM:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuigTigxLfE[/youtube]

And a song from Camp Rock:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jieoHU1abm0[/youtube]

Pretty sad, huh?

BTW, have you ever noticed how all of today's disney stars think that they can act, sing and dance?



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26 Apr 2010, 9:55 pm

LostInBed wrote:
K_W wrote:
I stopped watching Saturday cartoons when the Japanese takeover started, ~1997 when Dragon ball, Pokemon, Digimon, ect. started showing up.

Now there are 10,000 "kids programs" on TV all from Japan, and with the same general lame theme. Battling card/ball monsters. No thanks.

And the animation is, cut corner, cheap, low quality. 30 seconds of the same still scene where all that moves is a mouth and maybe an arm is not cartoon animation, it's lazy.

Cue passionate fan-boy rebuttal :twisted:



:shaking: Hate to burst that "japanime" takeover bubble you live in but though we weren't technically inendated with it until Fox Kids acquired the rights for series like Digimon and Pokemon in '97 the real takeover on north american airwaves started with YTV(up here in Canada) acquiring the rights for Sailor Moon in '95. Not that I mean to contradict :P


Yea and that bubble burst a few years ago. The only anime I see anymore is Pokemon, Yu-gi-oh and that is shown in the early morning on cartoon network. Most networks switch back to American animation studios.



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28 Apr 2010, 4:13 pm

@Bullzeye : In the words of Charlie Brown:


AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGHHHHH!! !! !! !


Sad thing is, kids today don't even know who Simba is. Or even Mickey Mouse for that matter. All they care about is "OOOMGGG JONASS!!1111!! OMG ZAC EFRON!! !!"

I can honestly say that kids these days are really missing out. Let them watch their mind-rotting Hannah Montana crapola, more cartoons and old school movies for us to enjoy. 8)