Starscream
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Joined: 18 Feb 2007
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 191
Location: The Planet Cybertron, Bazinga!
28 Apr 2010, 4:43 pm
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SonicMisaki
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Joined: 24 Sep 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,846
Location: Modern Chemical Plant, on the run.
29 Apr 2010, 4:50 pm
Kids should be focusing more on the classics, such as Mickey Mouse (Disney), Bugs Bunny (WB), Daffy Duck (also WB), and Woody Woodpecker (Lantz)...so I'd agree. (Baywoop!)
That is why I like the Looney Tunes Golden Collection DVDs. 
29 Apr 2010, 7:12 pm
@SonicMisaki:
I agree with you. Kids should be watching the classics. But, as pessimistic as it may sound, kids today only really like whatever is on now. They would probably find those shows "for old people" or whatever they say nowadays (dear LORD I sound old). 
Unless cartoons today aren't CGI, don't contain pop culture references and/or fart jokes (I'm looking at YOU, Dreamworks), don't feature a certain talking sponge, don't have their 'Tude face plastered on every FREAKING toy, shirt, and pair of shoes, or don't have the biggest celebrites from the Hollywood machine voicing some talking animal, chances are today's kids won't like it, sad, but true.
@Bullzeye:
You're not alone, friend. I still quote 2 Stupid Dogs to this day. 
30 Apr 2010, 4:35 pm
Anyone here who grew up in the 1990s (or 80s, or 70s, or something) knows exactly what I'm talking about. Old School Nickelodeon, with Rocko's Modern Life, Rugrats, Ren And Stimpy, Are You Afraid Of The Dark, and a whole lot more....poof! Gone! Now it's nothing but generic crap, the cartoons are only in two flavors:
1. Spongebob (I'll admit it, I'm ambivelent toward the little sponge-dude
)2. Or over-used generic CGI-crapola.
Other than that, it's nothing but iCarly this, True Jackson that. The plots are mostly the same as the crappy shows on the Disney Channel, which brings me to the Number Two channel I loath nowadays. I remember shows like TailSpin, Ducktales, Gargoyles, Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Goof Troop, just to name a few....Vanished. Toon Disney used to play them, but then it decided to cater to the pre-teen crowd and now (as Disney XD) plays nothing good at all! Just the same crap that was on The Disney Channel (with some sporty crud),
Suite Life, Hannah Montana (Thank God that show is near done), and the Jonas Brothers...in the words of the immortal Charlie Brown...
AUUUUUGH!
All I have to say about Cartoon Network is that while Disney Channel and, to some extent, Nick is for pre-teen girls only, Cartoon Network is for pre-teen boys only! What used to be Dexter's Laboratory (By the way, didn't Dexter just scream aspergers, or what?) Courage The Cowardly Dog, Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, Toonami, is now a slew of over the top randomness, fart jokes, and annoying innuendo.
In my opinion, I don't think there is anything good on TV anymore these days, and maybe this crud is why kids today are as dumb as a sack of rocks. Maybe I'm being harsh, but it's looking that way to me.
I LOVE Spongebob (but mainly the first 80 episodes) But yeah I agree with you otherwise, kid's TV HAS become a joke. I think this for both the 7 to 10 demographic you've described here, and also the 3 to 6 demographic. Seriously. Whatever happened to old episodes of "Sesame Street" (and "Reading Rainbow", too, even though that extends itself to a slightly older demographic)?
It's funny I ran across this post on WP today, 'cuz I've been thinking of making a ("younger") children's TV show for a couple years now, actually. I write a lot of songs and have recently extended that to children's music as well. My ideal modern-day kid's show would be one that is a return to kid's TV "the way it used to be" (meaning they just let kids be kids instead of condescending them, and they treat them more like they would a fellow human being instead of an animal) Humor would be an absolute must-have!! (only it'd be more subversive and manic, a la the Muppets). It may or may not be "educational" (since that's so common in kid's TV these days, I'm starting to think maybe it should be more creative than educational), and would be aimed towards a section of the 3 to 6 audience whose parents are/were art students, music students, film students, drama students, etc. Ideally I'd like it to be music/eclectic focused, but "Pancake Mountain" has already done this. So I figured what I should do instead is, once I have enough children's songs under my belt, I'd probably try to get a hold of these music/drama/art/film parents (in whatever way I could, lol) and ask THEM what THEY would want their kid to be seeing!!
30 Apr 2010, 5:31 pm
02 May 2010, 6:44 pm
Oh, and another thing about today's kid's shows. Does anyone else notice the smart-alecky-ness on the kids in certain shows? The way the kid characters on certain shows mouth off to their elders, you wonder why kids these days have no respect for their parents. 
09 May 2010, 6:17 pm
09 May 2010, 10:02 pm
Even if it wasn't tagged as an "educational" cartoon, most would still teach morals and values such as the Sonic Says segements on the Adventures fo Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons and The Sailor Says segments at the end of English dubbed Sailor Moon episodes or "preachy bits".
10 May 2010, 7:20 pm
Sonic SatAM! God, I loved that show as a kid.
That brings up another point. Is anyone else sick of kids shows nowadays trying too hard to have morals? I think that's another problem with modern TV. When it's not trying to force kid's to grow up too fast, it's trying to shove morals down kid's throats.
Where's a balance? Can one be achieved? In this modern day world and the crap shows that inhabit it, I highly doubt it.
10 May 2010, 7:52 pm
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27 May 2010, 3:19 pm
Kuramu
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Joined: 16 May 2010
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 51
Location: Minnesota
28 May 2010, 8:37 am
03 Jun 2010, 12:17 pm
@ Kuramu: Isn't that the truth? Especially the live action shows on CN. Oh, well, back to Boomerang (even though it may suffer the same fate in a few years or so 
).
07 Jun 2010, 4:06 pm
@donnie_darko: Well, SpongeBob, as I said before, I'm ambivalent toward, considering it really went downhill when Stephen Hillenburg ditched it, but you're right that it's all kids these days have, and it's really kind of sad. Phineas & Ferb, I have yet to see, so I can't judge it, and Fairly Oddparents was excellent, until Poof arrived, in my opinion.
By the way, doesn't it seem like babies almost ALWAYS cause an otherwise good show to Jump the Shark? I mean, look at Rugrats, for example, with Dil.
I know, I'm a grumpy old man.
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