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14 Jul 2009, 11:26 am

Horror and gore are two different things... something to keep in mind. I liked the original 'Shining' with Jack, but the remake was atrocious.


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14 Jul 2009, 6:48 pm

I liked the movie until the last scene which ruined it for me. As the movie played out, I was perfectly happy in accepting it as being about a person slowly losing his sanity. He sees ghosts conjured up by his growing delusional mind and ultimately tries to kill his family. However, when the camera zooms in to that old picture at the end that shows Jack at the hotel much, much earlier, I was pissed. Now, a supernatural element is introduced that is in no way followed up on.



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16 Jul 2009, 5:19 pm

Well I actually liked the Shining and the book. And you're going to throw the proverbial Polo Mallet at me (which was the weapon he used in the book I think, not the axe), but I liked the mini-series they did too.



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16 Jul 2009, 5:21 pm

I think the photograph at the end suggests that he's now a spirit trapped in the hotel. Really off the wall theory, though. He's like the caretaker (I think the former caretaker was that waiter guy passing out the Avo-whatzit drink).

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I liked the movie until the last scene which ruined it for me. As the movie played out, I was perfectly happy in accepting it as being about a person slowly losing his sanity. He sees ghosts conjured up by his growing delusional mind and ultimately tries to kill his family. However, when the camera zooms in to that old picture at the end that shows Jack at the hotel much, much earlier, I was pissed. Now, a supernatural element is introduced that is in no way followed up on.



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16 Jul 2009, 6:33 pm

Has anyone seen the Shining mini series? I like that way more than the movie as it's much closer to the novel.



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17 Jul 2009, 10:42 am

Yeah I saw the mini-series of the Shining. They filmed it I think at the actual Stanley Hotel. I've been wanting to stay there. I heard it is QUITE haunted. And the Ghost Hunters have been there of course. I miss watching that show. I don't have Cable, and I only have Part 2 of Season 4 on DVD. The Stanley Hotel special they had on Halloween was very creepy. Then they had a special recently at Fort Deleware. That was a good one too. But my all-time favorite locations they've filmed at are asylums.



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13 Sep 2011, 6:41 pm

I've never heard that Kubrick picked that hotel because it is supposedly "really" haunted. I think he just chose it due to it's remote location. Having said that, I think the movie holds up quite well, and is now a Halloween favorite. It's one of those rare "horror" movies that have depth to them. (Naturally, Kubrick did it.)


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14 Sep 2011, 12:25 am

What can I say - - The Shining is one of my very favorite horror films. :oops:

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14 Sep 2011, 2:49 pm

There is a lot of ambiguity in the film. When Danny is driving his big wheel through the hallways, why do the hallways change color and wallpaper? Is he seeing the hotel as it looked at various times in the past? Is it really different colors in different wings? Why are we seeing that?


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14 Sep 2011, 2:54 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
There is a lot of ambiguity in the film. When Danny is driving his big wheel through the hallways, why do the hallways change color and wallpaper? Is he seeing the hotel as it looked at various times in the past? Is it really different colors in different wings? Why are we seeing that?


Answer 1: The continuity editor wasn't paying attention.

Answer 2: Check it out, man. It's like, when the wallpaper changes color, Danny is seeing, like, a hotel from another dimension. Or maybe he's, like, projecting new papers onto the walls with his mind! Like, whoa, man. Deep. Are there any more Cheetos?



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14 Sep 2011, 3:46 pm

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Prof_Pretorius wrote:
There is a lot of ambiguity in the film. When Danny is driving his big wheel through the hallways, why do the hallways change color and wallpaper? Is he seeing the hotel as it looked at various times in the past? Is it really different colors in different wings? Why are we seeing that?


Answer 1: The continuity editor wasn't paying attention.

Answer 2: Check it out, man. It's like, when the wallpaper changes color, Danny is seeing, like, a hotel from another dimension. Or maybe he's, like, projecting new papers onto the walls with his mind! Like, whoa, man. Deep. Are there any more Cheetos?


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14 Sep 2011, 10:17 pm

Horror movies don't scare me. I find them hilarious. When I was a child I watch the friday the 13th movies to fall asleep. Personally I LOVE the shining. The part were Jack Nicholson is talking to the imaginary bartender still makes me throw my head back and hoarse laugh. the shining is on my list of top ten favorite films. 1.Taxi Driver 2. goodfellas 3. friday the 13th part 5 4. the shining 5. Friday the 13th part 6 6.Freddy vs Jason 7.once upon a time in America 8. cape fear (1960's version) 9. cape fear (1990's version) 10. Mad Max. I find all of these films entertaining, exciting, and most of all hilarious. I will admit however that in terms of how effective the shining is as a horror movie I'll admit it failed miserably. although my opinion is worthless on the subject I think as like I said horror films typically affect me the way comedies affect others. I suppose they are my slap stick humor, especially the slasher type



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15 Sep 2011, 8:58 am

I hated The Shining, at first. I saw it again after several years (and having learned much more about movies, and gotten an appreciation of Kubrick in general) and thought it was brilliant.

A simple scene I found quite effective: Danny is riding his Big Wheel through the halls of the hotel. The tic-tic-tic as he pedals away, counterpointed by the alternating low rumble of the wheels on the wooden floor and the silence of them on the carpet, I found it to be a particularly disturbing scene. Especially when he stops and stares at the door.

I was at a sci-fi convention a few months ago, in the hotel. When I came out of my room, a door opened up down the hall and two young identically dress girls stepped out and looked in my direction. I said "OK, now I'm officially freaked out!" (They had dressed as the twins from The Shining to enter the costume contest. I'm not sure how they did but the setting at that moment was perfect.)



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15 Sep 2011, 6:38 pm

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Worst horror(can it even be called that?)movie EVER, no action, no gore, no suspense, not scary at ALL, the movie is VERY slow and doesnt pick up till more then halfway through. i sat through this movie yawning and saying "so whens the scary part?" over and over. despite all the "redrum" (murder backwards) talk, no one ever dies, or even hurt for that matter. i rented this on netflix because so many people gave it 4 and 5 star reviews, they must be a bunch of f***ing idiots, or just very boring people. if your looking for something scary, skip this, this is garbage. can i have my 2 hours back?

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15 Sep 2011, 6:38 pm

I have never understood the appeal of "The Shinning" It seems to me that casting Jack Nicholson was a very poor choice since, by that point in his career, he was already had the volatile, wacko persona. His over the top acting just seems like Jack Nicholson being Jack Nicholson rather than the scary decent of a normal person in the grip of some kind of possession. Kubrick make a number of casting choices that seem, at best questionable. (Ryan O'Neil in "Barry Lyndon" Mathew Modine in "Full Metal Jacket" and Tom Cruise in "Eyes Wide Shut") I suspect he was trying to cast against what the story seemed to demand, but I think the risk he took in these casting choices did not pay off.

There are directorial choices that Kubrick makes that I feel weaken "The Shining" or throw it off course for no useful reason (specifically the long lingering take of the tacky nudie posters in Dick Hallorann's (Scatman Crothers) bedroom.) The shot of Nicholson's frozen face at the end just comes off as silly rather than horrifying. Much of the second half of the film just doesn't feel emotionally real.

I understand that a lot of people like this film. There are certainly quite a few really good visuals and Kubrick does a good job at times with setting the mood and the ominous tone. But I watched it a year or so ago, expecting to like it, but was quite appalled at how bad it was. Sometimes I think its held in high regard, not because it is a good film, but only because it is reputed to be a good film.


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15 Nov 2011, 12:52 pm

There's a bloke who has posted pages and pages regarding The Shining.
If you carefully watch the film there are so many inconsistencies, it's amazing.
Furniture disappears, then reappears.
And there's a body that falls out of the lifts of blood.
You have to watch the the bottom of the door.
There is clearly a body that falls out as the blood starts to flood.
All Hail Stanley Kubrick ! !


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